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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Nov 13, 2015 - 09:01am PT
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Chief, must be a brookie, a brown would actually have some chompers showing.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2015 - 09:07am PT
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Those fangs are retractable! that thing looks like a cobra more than a trout!
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 13, 2015 - 10:05am PT
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Jan... YUP!
From a very special lake at 12.2k and was around 15".
Sorry for the drift, Doc, but I have to admit that my teeth were chattering with excitement when I first came upon this gem.
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jstan
climber
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Shameless plug:
Here in SB I got a quote of just under $30,000 for work not including implants, or tooth pulling, or bone
grafts. Got the whole works including 5 implants( no grinding of otherwise good teeth) done for
$7000 in Los Algodones by Gabriella Bastidas. Met two people in her waiting room referred to her to
have salvage work done to repair failures done by other dentists.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Micro, just want to compliment you on your 19oct post, so well written, thorough and informative.
Cleo, I hope all systems go and you're on your way!
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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Micronut.......Thanks for this thread , it's a gift !
So, what is your opinion on some rumors I have heard about a connection between root canals, a bad pathogen (bacterial), and heart disease ?
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Probably scare up more business on an ice climbing forum.
:P
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Micronut, my cousins need some work done but can't afford to pay.
Could they work it off?
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2016 - 03:39pm PT
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Pennsylenvy,
You're welcome. Glad to help. Hard to get good medical beta out there these days.
So, what is your opinion on some rumors I have heard about a connection between root canals, a bad pathogen (bacterial), and heart disease ?
A few years ago a great deal of scientific endeavor went into looking at the relationship between oral health(or unhealthy/disease) and risk of cardiovascular events or strokes. There seems to be a risk/correlation between those that have gum disease/failing root canals/rampant decay and heart attacks/strokes, etc. Strange eh? Well, they looked and looked and looked for a "Floss or die" data set that showed a direct cause/correlation between the two, but it turns out the data ended up being vague and "relational" at best. Yes, if you have rampant gum disease and lots of decay and failing root canals and bacteria teeming in your mouth, you seem to fall into a category that says you are more likely than a healthy Joe to have a heart attack or stroke......but does the yuck mouth cause the heart attack/stroke? Not necessarily. I believe that if you are generally neglectful of your mouth to that extent, you may also generally neglect your systemic health and be overweight, smoke, have a fatty diet and drink alcohol......all of which increase your risk for cardiovascular events.
In a nutshell, though it has been reported that dental bacteria have indeed been found in the brain tissues of people who have died of bacteremia in the brain, this is like getting struck by lightning inside your house. It theoretically happens, but don't sweat it, the odds are with you. And the same goes for dental bacteria and heart disease/stroke. There is a correlation that is loose at best, but just take care of both your body and your teeth and you should be fine.
Lastly, don't put off a nasty, recurring mouth infection/root canal abscess/gum abscess. You are begging for all kinds of pain and suffering and it is generally not good for your localized immune system to be chronically fighting off an infection. Get it treated. Do what it takes and take care of yourself before you end up in a damp tent in Camp 4 with some unkempt Swede named Gustaf prying at your molar with a #2 Lost Arrow with you doped up on Wild Turkey six hours before the two of you head up on The Nose.
Dr. Micronut has spoken.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2016 - 03:40pm PT
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Thanks Fructose. Swelly, I'll reach out to you when I have a few minutes. Remind me here if I forget.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Reminder:
Mar 21, 2015 - 05:03am PT
Micronut, I just had my teeth cleaned. I get the same evaluation as always, your teeth are in very good shape; however your gums have receded further for a person your age (58). It is more prevalent on my upper teeth, in particular around the canine and first molar.
I have my teeth cleaned at a Dental Hygiene Clinic at a local Technical College, as it is only $30 and they due a thorough job.
I am usually warned about brushing to hard; which if brush any softer using a sonicare, it would be called "airbrushing". I floss daily.
Now I am on a prescription toothpaste (Prevident 5000 Boost) to prevent cavities as my Dentine is exposed around above mentioned teeth.
Any ideas on how to retard further gum loss?
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2016 - 04:42pm PT
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Tobia,
A couple questions.
1. Did you have braces at some point? Childhood? Adulthood perchance?
2. Have you ever been told you are a clencher/grinder, and if so do you currently have a hard night guard?
I ask because the position of the teeth and the presence of clenching and/or grinding are two major players in people who are seeing significant recession despite their best gentle efforts. You should definitely be on a Sonicare brand toothbrush and use a very mild, mellow toothpaste. (All the Whiz-bang whitning brightnig toothpastes out there, including Colgate Total have all kinds of things in them that you don't want or need, including abrasives and "bleaches" to shine things up. Get a cheapo bland toothpaste, or stick with Sensodyne or the prescription Prevident 5000 given by your dentist.
And have him/her "Check your occlusion." Only a dentist can do this and it takes training to know what you are looking at, but maybe one of the supervising clinicians at the clinic can take a look. If you are seeing heavy enamel wear on the chewing surfaces (ie: the tips and edges) of the teeth that have recession, you are probably grinding. This causes a "flexure" of the tooth microscopically and that stress can sometimes translate into soft tissue loss or recession. In that case, I do a gum graft and equilibrate the bite and you are right as rain. But that can get costly, so make sure you first look into the Sonicare and consider a hard night spint if you are diagnosed as being a grinder. If its really a hardship to get your hands on a Sonicare, message me and I'll send you one at cost. Glad to help.
Scott
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jan 12, 2016 - 10:14am PT
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Micronut,
Thanks for the detailed reply, it gives me a better understanding of my problem. I am a grinder! I never realized that I do in the night; but am aware of it when awake, I have anxiety issues. Sometimes my jaws seem to cramp from clenching my teeth.
I will have an occlusion check my next visit, to the clinic.
I rinse my mouth out with 50% hydrogen peroxide & 50% water before I brush. Is this a good idea?
I also have been dipping my brush in baking soda when using the Prevident. Is that to abrasive?
I have been using a Sonicare for 15+ years due to my dentist's recommendation long ago because of gum recession. At that time he said I was brushing too hard.
I thank you very much for Sonicare offer and the free advice. I learned more from this online appointment than a paying one at the clinic, very kind of you to provide this service.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2016 - 10:56am PT
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Tobia,
Glad to help.
a couple things....
I rinse my mouth out with 50% hydrogen peroxide & 50% water before I brush. Is this a good idea?
I also have been dipping my brush in baking soda when using the Prevident. Is that to abrasive?
1. Stay away from the peroxide. You aren't trying to chemically "kill" bacteria. Just loosening the soft plaque mass with proper, light, brushing and flossing. Peroxide doesn't do a whole lot and can be an irritant if you have a thin "biotype" and are prone to recession. Just use a regular no frills toothpaste. The only time I use peroxide is if I have a bad mouth sore or a sore throat, then a little gargle and spit can be an effective disinfectant for a couple days.
2. Yes. Too abrasive. Stop NOW!. Find a regular mild no nonsense toothpaste and stick with it. That baking soda is like washing your hands with Ajax.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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Swelly I totally forgot! Sorry man. I'll email you tonight!
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jan 12, 2016 - 05:11pm PT
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Thanks again. And I have officially stopped. I floss daily, if not more.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jan 12, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
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Reilly... Maybe Dr. Micronut would do a trade for the Rolex you're wearing in that picture of you and your big brother...?
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
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Hey Swellymoon,
Sorry for the late reply! Hit me up here on an email via the supertopo email function. I'd like to help out with any questions about your daughter.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 17, 2016 - 01:33pm PT
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is $1400 for a crown and $1200 for a root canal above average or?
I just got a root canal. Had no idea they take 10 minutes now.
hey micronut, if you have a few minutes over the weekend perhaps we can chat on the phone? I've got an estimate of $9K to do all the work I need not including an implant.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 17, 2016 - 02:12pm PT
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10 minutes for a root canal? Where, Target?
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