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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 20, 2009 - 12:05am PT
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...'cuz the planes would fall from the sky, if you did that, right?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:36am PT
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Ya know, Slater posted some quite nice recent pictures of the Valley over on the trip report section. They're quite peaceful and soothing.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:44am PT
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A classic and one of the ones that first brought me around to the truth:
Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf
Still very good after all these years, even though we now know more.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 02:08am PT
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Rokjox,
Did good!
Here are some more . . .
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 02:51am PT
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This is what we should have seen but did not . . .
Fake!
Fake!
Now what did we actually see (or didn't see)?
Official!
Nope. I don't see one do you?
Since when doesn't a massive Boeing 757 show up in the camera? How did the camera security system miss that massive jet? And since when does a Boeing 757 trail spiraling smoke behind it?
HHHhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm. Looks completely like something else and very small at that.
They wouldn't lie to us would they?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 03:07am PT
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The OCT says a massive Boeing 757 slammed into the Pentagon skimming just above ground level, so we are gonna see lots of debri immediately after the impact. Right? And all over the ground. Right? Massive destruction. You would think . . .
Meet the Amazing Pentalawn!
Golf anyone?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 03:32am PT
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OK, last one for the new day. Time to get to bed . . .
The vertical stabalizer would have nearly reached the roof line. How could as Rokjox has so plainly pointed out does a massive Boeing 757 fold up like an umbrella and squeeze through the rather small original impact hole?
Just how does that massive vertical stabalizer not smash the windows and the facade of the Pentagon up to the roof-line? How did solid go through solid and those windows stay in-tact?
How did that massive Boeing 757 passenger jet airliner squeeze through that small original 16' X 20' hole and the wings not get sheared off?
The Laws of Physics suspended and so many miracles in one day it is just staggering!
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 20, 2009 - 10:26am PT
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I finally realized how the Conservative mind works:
Skipt--(paraphrased) "The Government needs to be smaller and stay out of our lives, they can't be trusted, and can't do anything right (sans the Military)"
Skipt--(paraphrased) "I 100% believe what the Government has told us about all of the 9-11 events."
Notice the dichotomy of contradiction presented by Skipt--and HE'S the one who claims to be "right"
RIGHT!!!!1111666
edit: Seems to the Conservative mindset that the Government is ONLY good and reputable when it can be used to bury their heads in the sand even DEEPER:-)
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Dec 20, 2009 - 10:49am PT
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No Klimmer, they don't lie to us because we have our eyes and minds open. They lie to Skip.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:04am PT
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I don't see you putting forward a story that makes sense and names names to explain what you think happened.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:13am PT
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Our opinions and conjectures matter not--only the evidence, contradictions and money trail do.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:20am PT
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Chaz,
Once again.
In science all we can do is invalidate. We have invalidated the OCT countless times. Therefore, in science you must reject the original hypothesis, or in this case the OCT. Therefore it can not be correct. Therefore they are lying. It did not happen the way the OCT said it did in the official 9-11 Commission Report.
We do not have to prove what did happen exactly. We don't have to prove what slammed into the Pentagon, only that a Boeing 757 did not. We don't have to prove where all the passenger victims are and what happened to them.
Would we like to know all these answers? Of course we would. That is why we must call for a completely Independent International 9-11 Truth Commission, that will not white-wash what happened but will get to the truth no matter how hard it will be to endure.
The World deserves to know the truth. We deserve to know the truth. The surviving families deserve to know the truth. The truth, and all the truth no matter how hard it will be to hear it.
This is the only way America can fix itself and get back on course and do good again. The World is waiting.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:24am PT
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That's why you people are considered the Kook Fringe.
Just like the idiot Birthers. They don't have any answers either.
Makes Intelligent Design look like settled science.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:32am PT
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Who are all included in your racist comment "you people", Chaz?
Anybody that has varying thoughts and opinions from YOU?--better wrangle that ego before it drives you batty...
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:32am PT
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Chaz,
Apparently you do not know the steps of the scientific method and do not know how it works. It is far easier to disprove something (invalidate it) than prove something.
This is the way the scientific method works.
The 9-11 Truth Movement has done this, over and over again.
Therefore that demands a new investigation into all of 9-11-01. Do you not get this?
It is as simple as that.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:48am PT
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WB,
No doubt something did slam into the Pentagon, but it wasn't a Boeing 757, and it did not take the path they said it took.
More than likely something less significant slammed into the Pentagon and pre-placed explosives or a missile were used . . . that is consistant with the physical evidence.
Do we know exactly what? No.
It did not happen exactly like the OCT said it did. So it is invalid. Disproven. Period.
Edit:
I like the way this guy thinks. Simple and to the point. He addresses these issues . . .
The Pentagon Video Fraud
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pentagon/video_fraud.htm
The Attack on The Pentagon
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pentagon/spencer05.htm
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 20, 2009 - 12:34pm PT
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"you people" know who you are.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:03pm PT
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Apply that same standard to your Conspiracy Theory, and it falls apart too.
Lots of un-answered questions waiting for YOUR explaination as well.
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