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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Oct 27, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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Gobee. Try reading another book. It'll be good for you. Quoting from th bible all the time like you do is inane and does not advance this thread one bit.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Oct 27, 2009 - 08:38pm PT
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*"If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off.
1 Cor. 11:6 "
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1 Cor. 11:4-5 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.(ESV)
*1 Cor. 11:6, For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head.(ESV)
That was for the customs of the day.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 27, 2009 - 08:45pm PT
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Mighty Hiker-
It seems the reason your first posting seemed so mysterious is that my computer can not display Syriac or Aramaic. What appears on my computer is a long series of squares only, punctuated with numbers 1-25 and commas. I thought you were posting some kind of computer code??
Meanwhile your latest is some form of Sanskrit based alphabet. Since you mention syncretistic I'll guess Sikh and that it's from the Granth Sahib.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 27, 2009 - 08:56pm PT
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Dr. F.
Since Mighty Hiker and I are having fun playing with linguistics and religion, I would like to point out the connection between religion and writing systems. One of the many good aspects of religion is that the various agricultural age religions are responsible for bringing literacy to whole civilizations through their missionary efforts.
Roman Alphabet = Roman Catholicism = civilizing the northern tribes of Europe, many of whom invaded Rome
Greek Alphabet = Eastern Orthodox = Greeks teaching the Slavs how to read and write. The Cyrillic Alphabet gets its name from St. Cyril , a Greek Orthodox missionary to the Slavs.
Arabic = Islam and the first writing system for many Middle Eastern and central Asian nomads, also isolated islands in S.E. Asia.
Sanskrit = Hinduism and Buddhism everywhere in Asia they appear except for the Chinese character writing countries.
Chinese characters = The Japanese only learned to read and write after Buddhist missionaries from China and Korea came to Japan in the 7th century.
This is a formidable legacy which vastly improved the lot of the majority of humankind, unless of course you are too biased to see it.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 27, 2009 - 09:06pm PT
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"Sanskrit = Hinduism and Buddhism everywhere in Asia they appear except for the Chinese character writing countries."
Actually the original language of Buddhism was Pali, which was a locally spoken descendent of Sanskrit, which was already a priestly language hundreds of years BC. Buddha was a reformer (much like Jesus) who spoke the language of the people instead of the exclusive code of the Elite. He also bypassed the power of the religious authorities of the time in favor of everyman.
Peace
Karl
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 27, 2009 - 09:12pm PT
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Karl-
You are right, the original language of Buddhism was Pali and still today, the southern Buddhist countries of the Theravada/Hinayana school use Pali while the others use Sanskrit. Both use alphabets based on Sanskrit.
Also a very good point about Buddha's social role being very similar to that of Jesus. If you substitute Brahmin for Pharisee and Untouchable/Dalit for Samaritan, the social scene in the New Testament suddenly becomes comprehensible to both Hindus and Buddhists.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 27, 2009 - 09:18pm PT
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Dr. F -
The language of science is mathematics, one of the more obscure writing codes around and actually understood by very few.
Meanwhile, it's good to know that you are against all religions, not just fundamentalist Christianity.
I suspect that you have never lived for any length of time in a community practicing a non Christian religion, or you might hold a different view. Not all religions are the same, and I think if you ever studied Buddhist or Hindu, especially Vedanta philosophy, you would find your mind suitably challenged.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Oct 27, 2009 - 09:20pm PT
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"Cover up your excrement so that God will not turn away from you. Deut. 12-14"
What chapter? But I want to turn away from POOP!
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"The priest is to burn all of the bull on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the Lord. Lev. 1:9
An Old Testament sacrifice for sin that showed mans repentance, Jesus is the only way now!
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"Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, as a man wakes from the stupor of wine. Psalm 78:65"
Psalm 78
40 How often they rebelled against him in the wilderness
and grieved him in the desert!
41 They tested God again and again
and provoked the Holy One of Israel.
42 They did not remember his power
or the day when he redeemed them from the foe,
43 when he performed his signs in Egypt
56 Yet they tested and rebelled against the Most High God
and did not keep his testimonies,
57 but turned away and acted treacherously like their fathers;
they twisted like a deceitful bow.
58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places;
they moved him to jealousy with their idols.
59 When God heard, he was full of wrath,
and he utterly rejected Israel.
65 Then the Lord awoke as from sleep,
like a strong man shouting because of wine.
66 And he put his adversaries to rout;
he put them to everlasting shame.
67 He rejected the tent of Joseph;
he did not choose the tribe of Ephraim,
68 but he chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion, which he loves.
69 He built his sanctuary like the high heavens,
like the earth, which he has founded forever.
70 He chose David his servant
and took him from the sheepfolds;
71 from following the nursing ewes he brought him
to shepherd Jacob his people,
Israel his nheritance.
72 With upright heart he shepherded them
and guided them with his skillful hand.
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"The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees ... So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. "Quick," he said, "get three seahs of fine flour and knead it and bake some bread." ... While they ate, he stood near them under a tree. Gen. 18:1-8"
Isaac's Birth Promised?
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"This is what the Lord says: "Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight." 2 Sam. 12:11"
Nathan Rebukes David for Bathsheba
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"He spilled his semen on the ground. What he did was wicked in the Lord's sight; so he put him to death also. Gen. 38:9-10"
Gen. 38:6-10 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord put him to death. Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2009 - 09:42pm PT
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"Spare the rod and spoil the child."
This means beat the sh#t out of your children or they might like you.
Everyone can quote stuff from the bible, Gobee, just pick what YOU like,
and say it was the world of god, but then when someone else picks what
you do not like, then say "it was the times".
You still believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy ?
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Oct 27, 2009 - 10:08pm PT
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I love it when atheists start telling Christians what they must believe!
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MH2
climber
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Oct 27, 2009 - 10:30pm PT
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I believe anyone can believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't include a need to tell me what to believe.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 27, 2009 - 10:38pm PT
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dknow- "this ones fir
triple seven
minus one eleven"
"was wonderin about
yer handle"
The number three (3): A.) The number of the Godhead, so, indivisible power.
B.) The number of invincibility.
The number seven (7): A.) The number of perfection.
B.) The number number of sovereignty and
absoluteness.
Seven-Seven-Seven: A.) The number of the Godhead
The Godhead
A.) God the Father
B.) God the Son
C.) God the Holy Spirit
As in contrast to;
The number six (6) A.) The number of imperfection.
B.) The number of man.
Six-Six-Six A.) The number of the Beast.
Therefore I chose to roll with the 'Three Seven's'.
Although there is nothin perfect about me.
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MH2
climber
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Oct 27, 2009 - 10:41pm PT
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What is the belief system of fascists, Mighty Hiker? Tight transit scheduling?
If forced to choose, I pick Grumpyism.
As interpreted in a universe of Andy-matter.
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 27, 2009 - 10:59pm PT
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dknow- "Triple seven
minus one eleven"
That would add up to ten: 21
-11
=10
The number ten stands for first and foremost the Ten Commandments.
Of which I try to uphold.
Or you may be alluding to:
777
-111
=666
Can't subtract from the fact that once forgiven, you are eternally written into the Lamb's Book of Life'. And that it is a free gift, you own it for eternity. You can not loose it. "I will never leave you or forsake you"'
So my handle will never be '666'.
Peace and Love.
John.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:04pm PT
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The oldest manuscript of the book of Revelations actually has 616 as the mark of the beast. Still numerologically adds up to one of the 1st century emperors.
Wonder how many people with 666 address have had big trouble when the number might be 616 after all.
Peace
Karl
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:05pm PT
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By preaching the cult of atheism, the atheists fall into the darkest regions of knowledge .......
Better go back and study logic ........
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TripL7
Trad climber
'dago'
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:15pm PT
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Dr.F!
Stop putting words in my mouth!
I know nothing about the 'bible code'.
Watched a show on the History Channel about the bible code for about 5 minutes and it looked pretty sketchy at best to me.
I filed it away in my memory (brain) along side 'Nostradamus' who I consider a false prophet.
'dknow' asked me a question as to where I got my handle. I answered him.
Not trying to convince you of anything,
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:17pm PT
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Trip
Don't let Dr F get under your skin.
He's a projectionist. He only sees himself in everything.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:17pm PT
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So as to oblige Andy, the 'training' behaviour of the various isms:
Christianism: Trains include fatuous infuriating preacher in each car.
Islamism: Insh'Allah.
Fascism: Trains run on time, lubricated by castor oil.
Judaism: Trains don't run on Saturdays.
Communism: Trains free and shared by all, but none actually run.
Lenin-Stalin-Marx-Maoism: Trains used as self-contained torture chambers and execution cells.
Sikhism: Complimentary package includes kirpan and turban.
Buddhism: Trains painted with lotus flowers.
LEBism: Trains powered by demented skwirrrls, deer, and other animals.
Hinduism: Train to be reincarnated as set of Lego, or possibly Tonka toy.
Warblerism: Trains stop at all Milestones.
Neo-conservatism: Trains run by their friends, on no-tender contracts, all the while preaching about the evils of government.
Zoroastrianism: Trains powered by the divine fire.
Atheism: Don't believe in trains.
Agnosticism: Not sure that trains exist, but willing to give them a try if one comes along.
Fattyism: Over the horizon Israeli trains only.
Liberalism: Trains that mostly work, are usually more or less on time, that ordinary people can afford, and which the public doesn't greatly subsidize. As used by jstan.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 27, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
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isms and shisms are totally useless ....
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