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Gene
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Oct 14, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
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can't tell you folks how much I appreciate rational, informed, respectful, and data supportable discussions of the absurd.
Why am I posting?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 14, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
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WHY does the cylinder HAVE to be an alien spaceship?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Oct 14, 2010 - 05:06pm PT
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Ok if you notice it says one question free.
Klimmer do not ask a second question: Think you are intelligent to figure out why, Hmmm! Tom you might also think about it.
Attorney gave me this trick a long time ago. When calling an attorney on the phone he will give you one free answer to a question you might want answered, then when you ask the next question, he will say “come in and we'll talk about it “so the trick is have in front of you six or seven attorneys phone numbers or the whole phone book this way "a few thousand".
You will be asking six or seven different questions on the one subject that you're trying to resolve. First question on your list, you call the first attorney, ask your question and he responds, you thank him and hang up. Cross him off your list and that question. Now for different a question on the same subject you call second attorney, he responds, you thank him and hang up…. Third question, fourth different question and so on. This way you had most of your questions asked for free.
Scamming the system and getting free answers.
So I say let's do this the same way with this. Klimmer you call or write e-mail first: Ask your question [The Ark on the moon]remember it, recorded or save a copy from the e-mail they send you. Then Tom you ask a different question [What is NASA and what does it stand for], Rokjox then Monolith and whoever else. Graniteclimber and Mighty Hiker do not have to. I think I will do it, got to figure out the best question since I will only get only one shot at it. Thinking that the one that I will use is “why Fatty has not been on this thread?”
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Oct 14, 2010 - 05:29pm PT
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Those pictures don't prove that it is, keep in mind that they're from a "secret" joint US/Soviet mission called Apollo 20 that is supposed to have happened in 1976.
"Why does it have to be a spaceship?"
Because any other explanation just wouldn't be zesty.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Oct 14, 2010 - 05:33pm PT
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WHY does the cylinder HAVE to be an alien spaceship?
Because it fits very cleanly into Klimmer's religious narrative.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Oct 14, 2010 - 05:47pm PT
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The Apollo 20 hoax is a story told in a series of YouTube videos of a phony manned lunar mission whose purpose was to retrieve ancient alien artifacts from the moon. Thierry Speth, a French video artist, claimed to be the perpetrator of the hoax on 9 July 2007. The hoaxer began posting the videos on April Fool's Day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8k3YOamdY&feature=related
SiteDirector
Jul 9th, 2007 at 10:40 am
“Fake” is a harsh word. When we made these videos, it was more in the nature of an homage to the sense of wonder we all feel at the possibility of extraterrestrial life. We didn’t for a minute think we could fool anyone with plastic models and some old public domain footage, and we weren’t trying to. What we were trying to do was stimulate the imagination of the general public, and enthusiam for future space exploration. Thanks for visiting the site!
SiteDirector
Jul 11th, 2007 at 11:39 am
I am Thierry Speth! Ups, I mean William Rutledge! I command you to believe in my videos! http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread294160/pg1
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:00pm PT
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Well, unrelated but irritating to likely me only, but:
One uses "an" only before a word starting with a vowel, not a consonant.
The director should be ashamed of himself for not paying attention to grammar during grade school.
But back to the subject: Still staring at the cylinder.
Trying to understand why the assumption is that this is "mother ship".
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:11pm PT
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Well, he's on Facebook and his favorite movie is 2012.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Thierry-Speth/1298317807
Oh, and here's the unaltered moon shot:
So, looks like fifteen minutes of poking around brings the whole mothership down in flames. Oh the huge manatee. You're welcome.
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Gene
Social climber
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
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Careful, Norton. An is appropriate before words starting with H that have an unaccented first syllable. An honorable man. An hour a day. A hypochondriac. A hippopotamus.
Thanks for giving us something rational to discuss.
You are a hero.
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:15pm PT
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Don't you mean "an hero"? All the better conspiracy theory sources affect that effect.
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:16pm PT
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August 16th, 2010
Email This Digg This Post this to Reddit Share this blog post with delicious Share this on Facebook Tweet this blog post Dent this blog post
Government Uses Social Networking Sites for More than Investigations
Deeplink by Jennifer Lynch
This is part two of a two part series. Read part one.
In the midst of recent controversies over Facebook’s privacy settings, it’s easy to forget how much personal information is available from other sources on the Internet. But the government remembers. EFF recently received a number of documents from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) highlighting the government’s ability to scour not only social networks, but record each and every corner of the Internet. These documents were released in the second of a series of government disclosures resulting from EFF’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit in which EFF, with the help of UC Berkeley’s Samuelson Clinic, sought information on the procedures and guidelines employed by government agencies when conducting social network monitoring or investigations.
As an example of the government’s substantial information collection capability, several documents [PDF] in the CIA’s disclosure discuss the CIA’s so-called Open Source Center, established in 2005, which has been collecting information from publicly accessible Internet sources such as blogs, chat rooms and social networking sites, in addition to monitoring radio and television programs. The Open Source Center’s website, opensource.gov, bills itself as the “US Government's premier provider of foreign open source intelligence.” It is accessible to almost 15,000 local, state, and federal government employees and offers products ranging from reports and analysis on publicly available information dating back to the mid-90s, video reports and internet clips, translations, and media mapping and hot spot analysis.
In the other document [PDF] included in this release, FBI emails reveal the FBI’s interest in the University of Arizona’s Dark Web Project, an attempt by computer scientists to “systematically collect and analyze all terrorist-generated content on the Web.” Information in the document describes the Dark Web Project as especially effective in employing spiders to search Internet forums and find hidden web sites in the “corners of the Internet.” In addition to being able to search the Internet for content, the Dark Web Project is developing a tool called Writeprint that claims to help identify the creators of anonymous online content. The FBI emails reveal an interest in applying the Dark Web Project’s tools to the FBI’s own “operational analysis and exploitation of data, including web forums.”
As EFF and the Samuelson Clinic continue to seek information about law enforcement investigation techniques used on the Internet, we hope to learn more about how the government uses this information and especially how long it plans to keep it. In the meantime, however, it is clear that government investigators are collecting a wealth of information though the Internet in general and outside of the law enforcement context. It is also a good reminder that while social networks and other websites have privacy settings, the Internet does not. Stay tuned here for the next release.
This is part two of a two part series. Read part one.
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/government-monitors-much-more-social-networks
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:17pm PT
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Gene, upon review, you are entirely correct, and I stand corrected.
The Site Director is correct in using "an" in this instance.
It is I who should take remedial grammar again.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:19pm PT
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But what about Mighty Hiker's "an" hero.
Seems it should be "a" hero.
What's up with the exception to the rule, rule, on this?
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Gene
Social climber
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:20pm PT
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Don't you mean "an hero"?
Don't know. What's the rule for A or AN before a D?
Good thought Aders.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:21pm PT
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Not an unaccented first syllable, but rather a silent "H". "Honorable", for example, has the accent on the first syllable.
Although, if you dig hard enough, you'll find other rules.
Edit: Oh, shit! You guys just sucked me into to posting on a conspiracy thread. Did you conspire to do that? Or is it just coincidence?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:22pm PT
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Thank you Cintune. But where is the massive space ark?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:24pm PT
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"D", being a hard consonant, would require an "a" in front of it, not an "an"
Right? Crap. Has to be, doesn't it?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati
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Oct 14, 2010 - 06:24pm PT
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Articles: A versus An
Summary: This short handout deals with which article to use before a noun -- "a" or "an."
Contributors:Chris Berry, Allen Brizee
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 05:55:10
How do you know when to use the indefinite articles?
"A" goes before all words that begin with consonants.
* a cat
* a dog
* a purple onion
* a buffalo
* a big apple
With one exception: Use "an" before unsounded h.
* an honorable peace
* an honest error
"An" goes before all words that begin with vowels:
* an apricot
* an egg
* an Indian
* an orbit
* an uprising
With two exceptions: When u makes the same sound as the y in you, or o makes the same sound as w in won, then a is used.
* a union
* a united front
* a unicorn
* a used napkin
* a U.S. ship
* a one-legged man
Note: The choice of article is actually based upon the phonetic (sound) quality of the first letter in a word, not on the orthographic (written) representation of the letter. If the first letter makes a vowel-type sound, you use "an"; if the first letter would make a consonant-type sound, you use "a." So, if you consider the rule from a phonetic perspective, there aren't any exceptions. Since the 'h' hasn't any phonetic representation, no audible sound, in the first exception, the sound that follows the article is a vowel; consequently, 'an' is used. In the second exception, the word-initial 'y' sound (unicorn) is actually a glide [j] phonetically, which has consonantal properties; consequently, it is treated as a consonant, requiring 'a'.
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