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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:59am PT
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WTF Frosty?
No snow to shovel? Global warming eliminate your pathetic career? Or was it your incessant blathering? Shet dribbling stubbled chin offensive to management and all co-snow shovelers?
At any rate you are on this forum morning, noon, and night. Always with same predictable trolling for an argument. Predictable as an avalanche chute. Same old shet repeated over and over again.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 01:18pm PT
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I've tried to keep my posts on this thread about the science that addresses climate change.
I read the introduction to the special feature issue of the Proceedings, but the entire issue addresses the mitigation of climate change.
My feeling is that this could be addressed in another thread, perhaps NWO2 could start it, basically the title would be: "What do we do about human caused climate change"
I'm sure that NWO2 is willing, given his insistent attention to the various discussions on climate change mitigation, to concede the point the humans are already changing the climate, a result of the choices of engineered solutions to the energy demands, to wit, we are already witnessing "climate engineering" but this doesn't seem to be an issue for NWO2.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 02:29pm PT
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Bruce and The Chief, isn't the way you guys debate the exact opposite of what Chris Mac recently posted, asking for civility? I don't come to Supertaco to have the sh#t you're slinging rub off on me, and I know allot of other people feel the same way. Maybe take it down a notch or two is my feeling about it. I'm sure you don't want to hurt my feelings..
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Dec 14, 2014 - 10:59pm PT
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I read your major sermon to Studly/CMac from the previous page Frosty.
You have gone over the edge, a freefall into the stinking pit of your own vanity, your a loose canon who's consumed too much of the counterfit rotgut poison you peddle. Who the hell are you too judge the competency of anyone in this field? By your admission you don't know climate shet from shinola you ignoramous canuckistani.
My money is on the expertise of The Chief et al for accuracy in determining the lack of science in the political agenda that uses climate scientism as its primary vehicle.
The wheels are coming off the clown car you've hitched with. That bad taste in your mouth is the sewage you continually spew. You might think it the taste of the contents of The Chiefs sewer, of which he has artfully, subversely lured you and your cohorts here into, but you would be mistaken
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2014 - 08:07am PT
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What's the score of this ping-pong match?
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Dec 15, 2014 - 09:34am PT
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seems a broken record every month now
Month to Go: November Keeps 2014 on Track for Warmest Year on Record
Driven by record warm oceans, Earth's average temperature last month was again well above normal and 2014 continues on a pace to be the warmest year since record-keeping began in 1880, federal scientists reported Monday. Last month tied as the seven-warmest November, and January-November was the warmest such period on record, just clipping the previous record set in 2010, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration stated in releasing the data.
Combining both land and ocean temperatures, January-November was the warmest on record, eclipsing 2010 by 0.02 degrees F. What really has driven the overall global warmth is the fact that ocean temperatures for January-November were the warmest on record: 0.07 degrees F above the previous record in 1998. 2010 holds the record for warmest full year, so what would it take for 2014 to break that?
"If December 2014 ranks among the 10 warmest on record, 2014 will end up being the warmest year on record for the globe," Jake Crouch, a scientist at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center, tells NBCNews.com. And the chances of that? "We have had just one month this year — February — that did not place among the ten warmest on record for that particular month," notes Deke Arndt, climate monitoring chief at the NCDC. "Before that, you would need to go back to April 2013."
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/month-go-november-keeps-2014-track-warmest-year-record-n268631
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Dec 15, 2014 - 11:59am PT
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what IS your problem Rick
really?
does capitalizing my username somehow denigrate me when you post?
you like to repeat the person's name you are attacking for not liking what they post
does capitalizing and repeating make YOU feel superior, is that why you do it Rick?
I can't post on this thread without you getting riled up about it, I don't do that to you....
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raymond phule
climber
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Dec 15, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
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How does one actually measure .02C degrees?
With a good thermometer.
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Dec 15, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
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Hi all,
I seldom post but I just remembered something a bit odd that happened out at the Power Plant last October. Unit 2 was shut down for refueling and we were building scaffold for maintainance when one of the operators told us that they may have to bring down unit 1 because the ocean water was getting close to being too warm. I have been going out there off and on for over 30 years and this was the only time I ever heard such a thing. Those pumps down at intake each pump a million gallons a minute thru the condenser system to knock that steam back down to water. When they designed that place I bet they never, in their wildest dreams, thought that warmer sea water would be an issue. I wonder how many of the 150 or so Reactors in this country use sea water in their condenser systems and if they are having issues with warmer sea water? Maybe this is just a West Coast thing. Just thought I would throw that little bit of information out there.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 15, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
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Don't worry, TGT. With the world getting warmer, it will only get better!
Don't be scared
Pfft!
At 0.02 deg per year it will take at least 10,000 years to get my promised beachfront property.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Dec 15, 2014 - 01:29pm PT
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At .02C per year means about 1.7C by the end of the century. That's more than twice the .8C rise over the industrial era.
We've gained about .014C per year over the last 30 years, according to UAH.
In other words, say bye bye to Greenland and West Antarctica ice sheets at some point if these rates continue.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Dec 15, 2014 - 01:32pm PT
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Frosty, why don't you spend some of that ill gotten gain from peddling poison to your fellow canuckustani's and put your mula where your blathering mouth is. I suggest you buy a Tesla, a bank of solar panels from Solar City with a new lithium battery storage system-for delivery in 2018. You'd be helping out a good cause, Mr. Elon Musk and my modest R.E. investments in the general area of the new Giga Battery factory.
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Stevee B
Trad climber
Oakland, CA
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Dec 15, 2014 - 04:16pm PT
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Many industries stake their livelihood on securing the most accurate factual information about climate change and its consequences. Some of these include oil companies, the global insurance industry, and the U.S. military. I know of not a single industry that doesn't acknowledge climate change in their long-range financial planning.
Most of these companies pay a lot of money to independent research groups with no agenda except to make their clients money using the most accurate information available. There is zero climate change denial "science" acknowledged as credible or useful in that sphere.
Climate change denial exists only in partisan debate and in marketing for commercial entities that will benefit from denial thinking.
It simply does not exist in the commercial sector as a research finding.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
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Stevee steps in for the three-pointer.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Dec 15, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
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That lady 'Stevee b' doth protest too much, methinks" is a quotation
from the 1602 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It has been used
as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to indicate that
a person's overly vehement attempts to convince others
of something have ironically helped to convince others that
the opposite is true,
by making the person look insincere and defensive.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 15, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
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Many industries stake their livelihood on securing the most accurate factual information about climate change and its consequences. Some of these include oil companies, the global insurance industry, and the U.S. military. I know of not a single industry that doesn't acknowledge climate change in their long-range financial planning.
Ok then Einstein, consult your authoritative sources and get back to me on when I'll be having a nice bay side view.
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