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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 20, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
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Crossbows were banned from time to time in medieval times.
That must've worked REAL well.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:05pm PT
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Thanks. I was just going to ask for a cite on the Australian crime statistics posted by Tooth.
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:06pm PT
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But the suspected witches all drowned. so no need for crossbows
No, the witches didn't drown. Witches are made of wood, so if you didn't float, you were not made of wood, and were therefor not a witch. Which means if you drowned, you were innocent and your good name cleared.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
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Japan didn't consider invading mainland USA when 'there was a rifle behind every blade of grass'
That was the quoted reasoning for Japan's reluctance to invade us, just after they 'raped' the Chinese mainland. No wonder that the Chiners remember their history and use it against us in their current rhetoric.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
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Right now it's colder than a Witches tit!
EDIT: People from China are Chinese not Chiners.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:15pm PT
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This happened in a way with smoking, it was no longer done as much, and the next generation didn't grow up idolizing a person smoking, didn't end up smoking themselves.
My understanding is that parents had little to do with this. Instead, schools and media were responsible. Schools taught kids about the horrors of smoking. And littering was greatly reduced the same way (remember the crying Indian?). Either way, improvements in quality in life of all.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:56pm PT
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let's see...which of the world's problems deserve so much creative discussion??
economic instability and imbalance?
national debt vs tax increases and gov services cut?
bought and payed for congress?
runaway population increases?
wars of imperialism?
global warming?
solar storms?
air pollution?
surface water/acquifer pollution?
ocean contamination?
soil pollution?
automobile deaths?
runaway black market in drugs?
runaway black market in weapons?
uncontrolled high level radiation releases?
increasing cancer rates?
global starvation increases?
widespread soil depletion on factory farms?
pesticide contamination of the food supply and world ecosystems?
chronic increases in diseases with no known cause (i.e. induced by chemical/pharmacological/radiation)
massive biological die-offs of birds, fish, cetaceans, giant squid
over-bolting classic routes?
no worries...with the wise guidance of the elders on ST, our government has it all under control...
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:05am PT
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News flash teageetea it was all your socially conscious compassionate conservatives who gutted funding for social services and mental health programs. I guess they thought it was evil socialism.
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Last Monday driving to a job in Denver I switched the radio from an NPR story I'd already heard to an AM channel. Hoping to get a little Bronco Football news I instead got Rush Limbaugh just in time to hear him refer to the death toll in Newton as "Chump Change". Out of the mouth of the narcissistic bloviating drug addled hypocrite direct to my ears. I almost swerved off the freeway in disbelief. How can this lying sociopath still be on the air? It is time to turn off his microphone. He is the chump that needs to be changed. I urge everyone to boycott all his sponsors.
Send them a message and tell them why.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Rush-Limbaughs-Sponsors-to-SHUT-HIM-DOWN/253645602134?ref=stream
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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I don't think Tennessee will be leading the nation in anything other than poor dental hygiene
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:10am PT
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And perhaps inbreeding experiments.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:14am PT
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The T-Wall rocks!!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:16am PT
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“With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”
"Gun free zone"
=
"Helpless victim zone"
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:27am PT
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I might have to agree with you on this one Wendell, teachers properly trained and voluntarily armed might be a temporary solution, but is not the final solution. Not sure how a teacher can keep a side arm handy while teaching. Even at home it is not safe to store a weapon so that it is available on a moments notice. A loaded pistol on the nightstand/teachers desk is a bad idea.
I have heard that there were 2 or 3 armed witnesses at the Giffords shooting, none able to do any good.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:50am PT
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Really? It's a crime to punish your children? Or did you mean it's a crime to BEAT your children? Do you have childen Ron? Have you ever struck them?
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:52am PT
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Regardless of the crime element, the fact that kids get drugged instead of reprimanded has changed this next generation.
It is interesting to throw rumors out there and see sides pick quotes and go with it. (Australia) This really isn't much of a think tank here, just throwing quotes at each other like bullets eh?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:52am PT
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Please oh please don't let Rong be a breeder.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 01:09am PT
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I think they were speaking about the US. jghedge, there are more differences between Canada and the US than you could imagine - comparing the US to a country in Europe isn't much of a valid argument.
Comparing the US to the US results in a credible argument. I thought I had made that point with the Australia quote.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 21, 2012 - 01:42am PT
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Could those who are attacking Ron please let it go. He explained that he and his friend filled out all of the paperwork that was necessary at the time. If your point is that that should be illegal, then fine, make that point. But please.. enough with the personal attacks.
You apparently don't quite understand. Ron, and others, claim that there are all sorts of safeguards against people prohibited from buying guns, from buying them.
Then Ron gives an example of his involvement in a scheme to contravene the law against crossing international borders with guns....demonstrating just how easy he found it to do. He had a reason. EVERYONE has a reason. As long as it is doable, people will have reasons, and it will be done.
Of course, that is part of the NRA strategy: have a patchwork of laws, so who cares what the purchase law is in NY: go to NJ and buy, then take home. That is the reason to fight federal laws like crazy, a patchwork makes them useless.
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