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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Just so I get the story straight. Some of your are advocating for more government controlled lands, because you don't have the stones to stand up to a rancher that tries to run you off of public property?
What am I missing?
Ummm..reading comprehension skills..
edit > for below,..Thanks >Lorenzo, You might be snackless, and.. Thanks> Johnboy..
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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What am I missing?Here
Your missing the reality of the situation.
You've never been out in the middle 2000 BLM acres with just you,unarmed, and a rancher with a rifle having a bad day.
Makes for a pretty easy answer.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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And that has relevance to the way government property is managed how?
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jonnyrig
climber
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Your missing the reality of the situation.
You've never been out in the middle 2000 BLM acres with just you,unarmed, and a rancher with a rifle having a bad day.
The reality of the situation is that a lot of the people on this thread wouldn't think that's justification for you to be armed; and/or that being armed is not a justifiable nor practical means of self-defense.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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And that has relevance to the way government property is managed how?
It means we'd rather encounter an armed BLM person than a pissed off armed rancher.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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i thought that the beauty of america was that we did not need to carry our weapons. I hate feeling like I need to keep my firearm handy for want of protection from humans. Especially on public boonie land.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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More guns agaisnt guns?
One of the problems, people puffin themselves up behind the barrel of a gun instead of a settling by law. Law,you know, that thing they are all fighting for.
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overwatch
climber
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Egopetter is the breath of fresh ITG air this forum needs
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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It means we'd rather encounter an armed BLM person than a pissed off armed rancher.
The armed BLM person is far more likely to kick you off your "public" property. But I digress.
The rancher has the same right to be there that you do. Are you saying you want the armed BLM person to be there to protect you from other citizens that might try to chase you off public property?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Then I will ask again, how is that relevant to the manner in which our public lands are managed?
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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The armed BLM person is far more likely to kick you off your "public" property. But I digress.
The rancher has the same right to be there that you do. Are you saying you want the armed BLM person to be there to protect you from other citizens that might try to chase you off public property?
escopeta, this is like your right nut fighting your left. "get out of my sack you lefty!" "f*#k you and all like you!".
your being a dick go have a ball fight.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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I like how Cliven bothered to notarize his Notice. Like, now, it's official. I also appreciate his comments that he served Internet notice to "the world".
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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The armed BLM person is far more likely to kick you off your "public" property. But I digress.
Disagree.
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Also, the rancher has the same right to be there, but he doesn't have the right to tell someone they can't be. Assault is illegal, and it would be a great time to have a BLM officer show up to enforce the law. That is unlikely as the BLM is woefully understaffed in most areas.
You would have to be a moron to think picking a fight with that rancher is the right thing to do in that situation, so I'll conclude you're just trying to be an internet tough guy.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Good lord. You people are calling me names, and telling me to go away and then calling ME the internet tough guy? That's rich.
I'm still trying to get anyone to explain the rationale for preferring government land because some rancher ran you off of it. Its already public land, you want it to be "Special" Public land where ranchers would know better to try and throw you off of it?
As Franky say, I guess what it comes down to is that you prefer public land because there's law enforcement there? To protect you from raving ranchers and such. Which is fine I guess, just took a long time to get there, why didn't you just say that in the first place.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Escopeta posted Just so I get the story straight. Some of your are advocating for more government controlled lands, because you don't have the stones to stand up to a rancher that tries to run you off of public property?
Escopeta is right. This should be handled with a gunfight between private parties. I mean if you don't have the balls to get into armed conflict to defend your right to use public lands then you really don't deserve that right to begin with.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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i thought that the beauty of america was that we did not need to carry our weapons. I hate feeling like I need to keep my firearm handy for want of protection from humans. Especially on public boonie land.
And all this time I thought the beauty of America was that we were free to live our lives how we see fit even if it meant we were responsible for our own sense of security. How silly of me.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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And all this time I thought the beauty of America was that we were free to live our lives how we see fit...
unless you're black, brown, gay, non-christian... then conservatives spend a lot of time telling you how to live your life.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Right. And liberals are simply the bastions of freedom. Lol
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