What is "Mind?"

Getting intelligence from electric circuits sounds kind of close to what the brain already does. When it isn't busy wondering what's for supper, that is.

Though an atheist, I found both Canterbury and Winchester cathedrals sublime not only due to appearance but for literary merit: Jane Austin's resting place, Chaucer's take, Thomas Becket's murder, etc.

My comment was kind of silly and probably wrong in its interpretation of Dreyfus (I don't think he had anything in principle against electric circuits working like a brain).

Does Jane Austen do her work too remorselessly well? For me, I mean? Maybe that is it. She makes me detest all her people, without reserve. Is that her intention? It is not believable. Then is it her purpose to make the reader detest her people up to the middle of the book and like them in the rest of the chapters? That could be. That would be high art. It would be worth while, too. Some day I will examine the other end of her books and see.

Probably has more to do with the spread of Roman culture and technology of which the church was but a part.

No, I'm talking about the consequences of the Roman conquest of Europe and the effect that that had on civilizing those lands.

as for sense of awe inspired by the majesty of being in any cathedral, I cannot abandon my science viewpoint, even as it leads my sense of outrage over the acts committed by those who aggregated the resources to build them, the enslavement of the labor who actually built them on promises for rewards after death.

But when touring the Cathedral off of the Zócalo I was struck by the oddest of sensations, as the lamps hang a long ways from the roof, and are "leaning" apparently off plumb. This is not the case, rather, the entire building is sinking into the ground, asymmetrically. We learn that the foundation of the cathedral was built upon the ruined Aztec temples, an affectation by the Spanish conquers, who adapted the Aztec practice of building their temples on the ruins of their conquered.

When the remedy of the tipping was proposed, pumping concrete into the foundation to secure it, exploratory excavation revealed the ancient structures that lay underneath, and Mexican law require these antiquities be preserved in some manner.

MikeL,

Right. And sitting in meditation is just sitting. :-) It’s just a concept. :-D And art is just putting paint on a canvas. And love and marriage is just a chemical and legal transaction. :-) And soloing El Cap is just movement on rock. :-) They are all just concepts.

My guess is you are one of DMT's many avatars up early making sales calls.

sycorax,

Have you realized the difference between its and it's yet?