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monolith
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SF bay area
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sci-fi still can't see what's wrong with the graph he took from that opinion piece.
Hint for sci-fi: The early part of the 8.5 pathway curve is much less than later on.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
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So now you're recognizing the hiatus?
What do you mean "now?"
It's funny how you guys have been doing your best to invalidate the hiatus, since this thread began (five years ago). Now that there's a glimmer of resumed warming, you're all atwitter. "The hiatus... that we've been denying for years... is over!!! No more denying it!"
Man, what a foolish rant.
Was it this diagram,
 sci-fi
Why no references to the source of your charts sci-fi?
According to you and your fellow AGW Ideological Ballcuppers here, that thang never occurred nor has it occurred.
I lost track of the number of lies you've told The Chief. Got a reference to where I denied the "hiatus?"
No, I didn't think so.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Chief advantage of the Cowtan & Way index compared with HadCRUT4 is that CW14 has less biased spatial coverage, e.g. it does not leave out the Arctic.
Incomplete global coverage is a potential source of bias in global temperature reconstructions if the unsampled regions are not uniformly distributed over the planet's surface. The widely used Hadley Centre–Climatic Reseach Unit Version 4 (HadCRUT4) dataset covers on average about 84% of the globe over recent decades, with the unsampled regions being concentrated at the poles and over Africa. Three existing reconstructions with near-global coverage are examined, each suggesting that HadCRUT4 is subject to bias due to its treatment of unobserved regions.
September 2014 is the warmest September since 1850 according to this index, in agreement with results from NASA and NOAA indexes (although based on different data and methods).
What will October 2014 look like? I dunno, we'll see soon enough. Judging from the lower map (surface temperature anomalies) below, an index that leaves out the Arctic will run cooler than one that takes the Arctic into account.
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Jorroh
climber
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For Gods Sake Larry...why don't you leave this to the experts like Sketch and Chief.
No-one cares what you cash laden "scientists" think when we have real experts like Sketch and Chief to tell us whats up.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
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I must say that the routes on El Cap are absolutely disgraceful (although entertaining). Who came up with the insane idea of placing all those rivet-ladders?
When I did the Compressor on the Torre ...
Say sci-fi, you've done a bunch of climbing, I can see.
Yeah, all those rivet ladders on the Captain, what a mess. But maybe you can help me out here... What's the difference between the ladders on El Cap and the massive ladder on the Compressor route?
Oh wait, that's right. In March you didn't know much about climbing. But now, six months later, you've been up the Compressor route after they chopped all the bolts.
Bravo!! That's good on ya, Mate.
AND working on your PhD? Boy, you do get around, don't you?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Well, what's up with El Nino? you might wonder. Not terribly much, according to NOAA:
NOAA's National Weather Service says El Nino is favored to start by year’s end and last into spring 2015. Forecasters favor a weak event.
There has not been a strong El Nino since 1997-98, which made that dramatic spike which stands out in time plots of lower-troposphere (satellite) temperature indexes.
Anyway, here's a graph of monthly values for the Multivariate ENSO (El Nino/Southern Oscillation) Index. The September 2014 value is a feeble 0.5. You can see right away how scientists know ENSO is not driving long-term temperature trends such as that seen in the graph of Cowtan & Way data above. Although ENSO's surface temperature warming (El Nino) and cooling (La Nina) effects certainly influence interannual variations.
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sci-fi
climber
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K-man, I climbed the Compressor almost ten years ago and have been on several trips there since then. I've also done FAs in the Himalayas and Alaska. I never said I'm doing a PhD, I said I already have one. I got my own funding to do research now. Dont believe me?
Just because your life is pathetic doesnt mean that other's are too...
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Just because your life is pathetic doesnt mean that other's are too...
Your life's so awesome you made this sock puppet too!
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Jorroh
climber
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Maybe Sci-Fi will get together with Chief and Sketch and write their own climate report ... can't wait .... after all who's smarter than those guys?
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sci-fi
climber
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You guys worry about the climate despite the fact that it has always changed on all time-scales, you whine about people not sharing your worries, and you spend loads of time on name-calling.
I would say that is pretty damn pathetic.
You havent come up with any arguments as to why temperature and CO2 has been decoupled for the past two decades.
Btw. Ed has still not cared to share what the climate sensitivity of his model suggests.
I wonder why...
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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This thread is hilarious. It amazes me how many armchair scientists there are. It's all really simple, the climate has changed god knows how many times over time as we know it. Yeah, maybe we are not helping, but I can assure this, it's going to happen, and it is happening.
Get over it.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Did somebody say sock puppet?
I did, but not about Jorroh, he's an actual climber. Good one, too!
Ya wanna vouch for "sci-fi", "Sketch"?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
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sci-fi, your very first post on SuperTopo (at least under this handle) started with this statement, "I don’t know much about climbing and have only just started...." That was this past March.
So now you're saying that you started your very first post on this forum with fat a lie? Nice character you got going for you there, sci-fi. And you have the gall to say that I'm leading a pathetic life.
But keep up with your "scientific" posts that quote debunked blogs--it's fun to see the real scientists here tear holes in your elementary attempts to look smart.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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It would take sociologist of the caliber of the discoverer's of the Yanamamo to make up the likes of our new fictional freind.
Hey, Larry, weren't you in on finding some heretofore unknown south american jungle dwellers?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Hey, Larry, weren't you in on finding some heretofore unknown south american jungle dwellers?
Trauco.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
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Well, it's about time this thread got to seeing who has the biggest climbing dick. So far we have The Chief and sci-fi posting their climbing resumes.
Any other takers? Sketch??
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Well hell yeah. I just recently established four new 5.3d's on a 100 foot tall nevada crag. Absolutely death defying, likely never to see repeat ascents.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Btw. Ed has still not cared to share what the climate sensitivity of his model suggests.
I wonder why...
I did, giving it for the four models without the AMO for the reasons I explained...
so your snarky innuendo is totally irrelevant. That is unless you don't actually know what "climate sensitivity" is, which I suspect is also the case.
Why don't you go back and look at my posts?
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