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raymond phule
climber
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sci-fi, thanks for that link to the bogus blog article.
Now about that author:
Is climate disinformer Ross McKitrick dishonest or dumb?
So, the question remains, are you dishonest, or dumb?
Really? Sci-fi links to what I believe is a valid article. You say that it is a blog. Then you go on and link to a blog that discredit the author on a different article.
So what really is you point? Is blog valid sources or not? Did you prove that the article sci-fi linked to is dishonest or dumb?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Blinded by his own myopia.
whoa, he's on a roll!
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Ed, tell us all about the only answer to this looming climate catastrophe you consider viable.
Let's hear again about the benefits of carbon taxation, more and tighter environmental regulation, and the benefit of attack on industry via enviro NGO's endless litigation.
Earth to Eddy: are you doing your duty today by filling out and mailing in reams of absentee ballots for those to lazy, or yet unaffected by the horrors of manmade climate change, to care about the importance of casting a liberal-centric ballot? Don't forget man, the general electorate is to stupid to realize that their personal loss is the environments gain.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 10:14am PT
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Could not be any closer to the truth.
Funny that The Chief writes as if he knows what truth is.
Hey The Chief, got some more quotes from your wife?
I love to hear what she truly feels.
He just shows up being an as#@&%e... hoping someone takes the bait.
Hmmm, who just showed up and started calling folks names?
Why that would be Sketch. How timely.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 10:22am PT
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sci-fi
Mar 23, 2014 - 05:01pm PT
I don’t know much about climbing and have only just started, but with a PhD in geoscience and a dozen peer-reviewed publications under my belt I can say a thing or two about the current state of climate science, which can basically be summarized in a few graphs.
sci-fi
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
I know the feeling of being bombarded by falling ice plates from Patagonia and I don't need to experience that ever again.
sci-fi
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
I nearly died from hypothermia on Exocet by climbing in an icy waterfall for three hours, so I know the feeling.
Can you tell the truth from the fiction?
Nothing like going for it in Patagonia when you don't know much about climbing! And nothing like being a PhD in the sciences without knowing how to do proper research ...
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sci-fi
climber
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k-man, lets just say that I have done more climbing than you'll ever do.
You were probably smearing the sceptics in this thread while I was climbing the North Face of the Eiger.
You definitely need to prioritise your time better...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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k-man, lets just say that I have done more climbing than you'll ever do.
You were probably smearing the sceptics in this thread while I was climbing the North Face of the Eiger.
You definitely need to prioritise your time better...
of course, scifi can claim anything, he's an anonymous troll, just like Sketch, et al.
so far I rather doubt he's a "scientist" but that's just based on his difficulty understanding elementary concepts for data analysis, statistics, and basic scientific reading skills.
But we'll never know, the anonymity provides a perfect cover behind which to claim absolutely anything, true or not...
...how'd the week go on the Captain?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Thanks for the weather report,TGT.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Thanks for the weather report, TGT.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
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sci-fi
Mar 23, 2014 - 05:01pm PT
I don’t know much about climbing ...
To:
sci-fi
Nov 3, 2014 - 10:51am PT
k-man, lets just say that I have done more climbing than you'll ever do.
Somehow, sci-fi lacks the credibility he so much desires.
She stated how she feels utterly "sorry for anyone that could ever be married to such a buffoon as that KaveMAN fool!"
And there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth!
So what?
Sketch, it marks the end of the "hiatus" you so love to reference.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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"sci-fi" is apparently a political sock puppet made just for this thread. Here is the first sentence of its very first post:
I don’t know much about climbing and have only just started, but with a PhD in geoscience and a dozen peer-reviewed publications under my belt I can say a thing or two about the current state of climate science, which can basically be summarized in a few graphs.
It's shown no sign of science knowledge either, as others keep noticing. What kind of scientist, for example, can't read Ed's simple equation? That's a real question. Seriously, what kind of scientist?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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the LEB kind
Yikes, ya think? That's even worse than I imagined. But then again it writes stuff like this:
I actually experienced Sandy, and it was pretty tame.
You should try being trapped on a climb in a real Patagonian storm.
That would be seriously funny if the denialists on this thread had been praising the science acumen of a LEB-puppet.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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The satellite temperature indexes, followed by NASA and NOAA, will weigh in on October in the next weeks. HadCRUT4, slower to update, just recently posted September. The Cowtan & Way index, which has better spatial coverage than HadCRUT4 and better sea surface temperatures than GISTEMP, starts out from HadCRUT4 and so comes in dead last. Just today Cowtan & Way posted the mean September global anomaly.
The graph below shows January to September means for 1850 to 2014. I've added a lowess smooth curve along with two linear trends: 1975 to 2014 (the takeoff years) and 1998 to 2014 (the cherry-pickers' favorite pick for a "pause").
Showing several short-term trends on one longer-term graphs helps to highlight a simple algebra point that Monolith, Ed and no doubt many others have mentioned in their posts. When you cherry-pick an interval to fit a new trend, it's not only the slope that changes but the relative height (or y-intercept), but that jump gets hidden in your cherry pick instead of the model.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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IPCC are the expert cherry pickers and, of course, world class pick pockets.
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sci-fi
climber
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Wow, can't believe I'm getting all this attention. You guys are certainly great at "ad hominem". I must really have hit a nerve.
Was it this diagram, which considering the amount of CO2 that was emitted in the same period, completely negates the possibility of CAGW?
Or was it this one showing just how ridiculous Ed's continued claims regarding the excellence of the models really is?
Or was it this one, which shows just how far IPCC is getting from reality?
Regarding climbing, I must say that the routes on El Cap are absolutely disgraceful (although entertaining). Who came up with the insane idea of placing all those rivet-ladders?
When I did the Compressor on the Torre that thing at least had harsh weather and iced up cracks to justify it.
Seems like a lot of Americans enjoy double standards.
Just like in the climate debate: "Save us from CO2, but please do export some more fossil fuels".
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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It is likely that the frequency of
heavy precipitation or the
proportion of total rainfall from
heavy falls will increase over
many areas of the globe.
That "prediction" is about as insightful as a Chinese fortune cookie or today's horoscope. Is that what passes for "science" these days?
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