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couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 22, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Did you guys already talk about the stolen jewelry Martin had got caught with? Interesting take on it here.

How a Miami School Crime Cover-Up Policy Led to Trayvon Martin’s Death

By ROBERT STACY MCCAIN on 7.15.13 @ 1:05AM



The February 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martion might never have happened if school officials in Miami-Dade County had not instituted an unofficial policy of treating crimes as school disciplinary infractions. Revelations that emerged from an internal affairs investigation explain why Martin was not arrested when caught at school with stolen jewelry in October 2011 or with marijuana in February 2012. Instead, the teenager was suspended from school, the last time just days before he was shot dead by George Zimmerman.

Trayvon Martin was not from Sanford, the town north of Orlando where he was shot in 2012 and where a jury acquitted Zimmerman of murder charges Saturday. Martin was from Miami Gardens, more than 200 miles away, and had come to Sanford to stay with his father’s girlfriend Brandy Green at her home in the townhouse community where Zimmerman was in charge of the neighborhood watch. Trayvon was staying with Green after he had been suspended for the second time in six months from Krop High School in Miami-Dade County, where both his father, Tracy Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, lived.

Both of Trayvon’s suspensions during his junior year at Krop High involved crimes that could have led to his prosecution as a juvenile offender. However, Chief Charles Hurley of the Miami-Dade School Police Department (MDSPD) in 2010 had implemented a policy that reduced the number of criiminal reports, manipulating statistics to create the appearance of a reduction in crime within the school system. Less than two weeks before Martin’s death, the school system commended Chief Hurley for “decreasing school-related juvenile delinquency by an impressive 60 percent for the last six months of 2011.” What was actually happening was that crimes were not being reported as crimes, but instead treated as disciplinary infractions.

In October 2011, after a video surveillance camera caught Martin writing graffiti on a door, MDSPD Office Darryl Dunn searched Martin’s backpack, looking for the marker he had used. Officer Dunn found 12 pieces of women’s jewelry and a man’s watch, along with a flathead screwdriver the officer described as a “burglary tool.” The jewelry and watch, which Martin claimed he had gotten from a friend he refused to name, matched a description of items stolen during the October 2011 burglary of a house on 204th Terrace, about a half-mile from the school. However, because of Chief Hurley’s policy “to lower the arrest rates,” as one MDSPD sergeant said in an internal investigation, the stolen jewerly was instead listed as “found property” and was never reported to Miami-Dade Police who were investigating the burglary.

Similarly, in February 2012 when an MDSPD officer caught Martin with a small plastic bag containing marijuana residue, as well as a marijuana pipe, this was not treated as a crime, and instead Martin was suspended from school.

Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley’s attempt to reduce the school crime statistics — according to sworn testimony, officers were “basically told to lie and falsify” reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.

In fact, the reason Zimmerman was patrolling the townhouse community the night of the February 2012 shooting was that there had been a rash of burglaries in the neighborhood, although there was no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any of those crimes.

As for Chief Hurley’s policy, it was the controversy over Martin’s death that accidentally exposed it. In March 2012, the Miami Herald reported on Martin’s troubled history of disciplinary incidents at Krop High. Chief Hurley then launched the internal affairs investigation in an attempt to find out who had provided information to the reporter.

During the course of that investigation, MDSPD officers and supervisors described Chief Hurley’s policy of not reporting crimes by students. Chief Hurley was subsequently accused of sexually harassing two female subordinates.

He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin’s death.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 22, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
"He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin’s death".

Wow warping the time space continuum neat trick.

That one line alone discredits the rest.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 22, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
What? Phil O, what do you mean?
"Wow warping the time space continuum neat trick. That one line alone discredits the rest."
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 22, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
I was not aware that Trayvon was murdered a year ago last February.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
Yeah and I heard Trayvon killed Martin Luther King too.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
Dr F:

The jury heard what the defense had to say
They never told the jury about Zimmerman's past violence, or him being rejected by several police forces as an candidate, that he wasn't even a "Neigborhood Watchman"

They never heard all the facts, so I am allowed to second guess them all I want
I have the facts, They didn't
what kind of idiot are you? do you just believe the propaganda, and ignore the facts,
Is that the best way to go through life?

No doubt you are so important and so insightful that you have better access to the facts than the State of Florida Attorney General's Office. We are still all so in awe of you oh great and omniscient Dr. F.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
Phil, you need to re-read the article please. PhilO said:
"I was not aware that Trayvon was murdered a year ago last February."


No where was that stated. Can you copy and paste where you think that it says that in the article? Actually Phil: the last line you complained about actually says “He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin’s death.” If you wiki the death of the lad, it says"

"The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman took place on the night of February 26, 2012"

Which would indicate, per the artical I quoted, that the police chief dude resigned in Feb like they say, Feb 2013- a year AFTER Martin was shot.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
"He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin’s death". And I was wrong, it was my own mental time warp. Sorry for the confusion I stand corrected.

See how easy that was Ron.

What's funny Ron is that you and a few (very few) others can stamp your feet in a tantrum if any opposing views state a possibility that you don't think was in the trail but then you and a few others can go off the wall lying bigger and bigger lies. Awesome Republicans one and all.

Now among other wingnut fallacies and fantasies Zimmerman is black, white, hispanic.
And Trayvon was a strung out junkie with "KILL WHITEY" tattooed across his face.
Character assassination is vulgar at best.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:22pm PT


What about the story? Now that it's been validated by the last sentence not being incorrect.
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
One who had not shown any racist tenancies according to those that lived by him. GZ being a mix of Black, White and Mexican..


Hi Ron,

I don't believe George Zimmerman's ethnic heritage included Mexican.

His racial derivation was White, Black (his maternal great grandfather) and (Peruvian) Indian.

In his childhood, Spanish was spoken in the household except when his father was present.

Mr Zimmerman mocked Mexicans on his Facebook account.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
Ditzominoshitz you say? thats the guy.

I seen him for decades, a professor of Law at some nohting university wasn't he?
He has a certain accredited standing in someplace, somewhere -- certain circles, or so I once heard it said somewhere.

are you serious?

you can't spell his name, you don't know where he is a Law Professor

and you once heard it....somewhere

and you conclude, from this all you know,,,,something, maybe a liberal?

hardly
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Nice guy Mr. Zimmerman..hated Mexicans and call his ex a hoe..lied about injuries and shot a kid dead because he couldn't defend himself against a 17 year kid.

http://jezebel.com/5907051/george-zimmerman-called-women-hoes-and-mexicans-thugs-on-his-myspace-page
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
Ron A The Gallant Gallstone is a broken record.


Couch, the article is interesting and disturbing but given the shady character of the Cop you have to ask yourself WTF? was really going on.
abrams

Sport climber
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:39pm PT
Facebook says 'Zimmerman must Die'page does not violate its community standards!

Fb lawyers should call Zuck and remind him its a Class A felony to solicit murder.

http://www.examiner.com/article/facebook-says-zimmerman-must-die-does-not-violate-community-standards

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Zimmerman-Must-Die/194772994020771



Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
Ron wrote: hey bobda, if they ever research YOU for some crime, the pages here will reflect what about you? ROFLMAO!


And for you it will reflect that you have nothing but air between your ears.

abrams

Sport climber
Jul 22, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
This snaps that issue into focus.

"If political incorrectness can violate Facebook’s 'Community Standards'
but advocating someone’s death does not,
then it has become a social media site
that engages in viewpoint discrimination
while allowing itself to be used as a platform to advocate murder,".


philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 22, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
Oh Lawdy Lawdy Lawd this thread has jumped the shark.

If Paul Revere would have ridden through their town these days they would have shot him..
Well at least we could thank you for our unfettered access to guns eh?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 22, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
Do I see a Jeff Foxworthy sign in your avatar picture?

oh yeah, i am a closet redneck

you?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jul 22, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Nice guy Mr. Zimmerman . . . shot a kid dead because he couldn't defend himself against a 17 year kid.
He actually did defend himself against the 17-year old; whether he did so properly is another matter.
If you mean he couldn't defend himself with his fists, that's true, but there are plenty of 17-old kids out there who would be fully capable of beating you (or virtually any ST poster) to a bloody pulp, and would be more than happy to do so in the right circumstances.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 22, 2013 - 05:56pm PT
No question. Ron knows what really happened.
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