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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Oct 16, 2014 - 04:21am PT
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never been here I have not read a word
The only thing constant is change
I throw that pebble out into rough waters so it should not make
a change
Now I will go back not likely all the way
and read
see if this post works here
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raymond phule
climber
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Oct 16, 2014 - 05:48am PT
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What does the graph imply other than a consistent and steady rise in sea levels since 1870? Even during the period leading up to 1955 when human emissions were 1/4 or less than they are today.
It is kind of meaningless to try to discuss with you when we talked about one graph and you change to another graph in the middle of the discussion. My comment were not about your understanding of that graph.
You do see how there is absolutely no increase in the pace/rate of the rise as we get closer to date. Why is that?
No, I don't see that. Explanation for why you see that might be for example:
You don't understand the graph
You don't understand pace/rate
You need glasses
You are drunk
Your "thinking" is clouded by what you want to see
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raymond phule
climber
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Oct 16, 2014 - 07:14am PT
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It is strange to discuss with someone that both says that you are wrong and prove that you are right in the same post.
One thing worth noting is that the length needed to determine if the trend in a signal has changed depends on the variability in the signal. The temperature data has a lot of variability so a long time period is needed to calculate a relevant trend. The sea level has much less variability so a shorter time interval is needed.
Not that the chief understands or care and it is neither relevant in this case as the the trend for longer time intervals than 21 years show the same thing.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 16, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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from the Technical Summary of AR5
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Oct 16, 2014 - 09:04am PT
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Frosty my money is on you to be the last to suffer a catastrophic meltdown.
Fools logic of a short term rise without significant variability constituting a trend doesn't wash. We had significant steric rise in response to the '98 super El Nino and and actual decrease in sea level in 2010 or 11 in response of a large drop in solar sw during the quiet sun period between cycles 23/24.
Eddy, good to see you didn't get Fryed along with dr. Craig. You are made of sterner stuff.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Oct 16, 2014 - 10:29am PT
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Warmists making their weekly terrorist pronouncements
of doom are probably the same saying don't worry about ebola
as they take another bite of imported monkey jerkey.
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raymond phule
climber
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Oct 16, 2014 - 10:40am PT
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Why is your scale valid and mine not?
You could start with taking a basic course in statistics and you might understand why. (but you should of course start with a course about learning to read graphs).
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Oct 16, 2014 - 10:45am PT
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The truth is that you warmists are trying to kill the human race.
A warmer planet would benefit civilization if it ever happens.
Still waiting.
More CO2 has equaled bigger crop harvests. More food is
a good thing for a growing population.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 11:08am PT
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The truth is that you warmists are trying to kill the human race.
Now that's a new angle.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 16, 2014 - 12:22pm PT
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So which part of the AR5 sea level projections is realistic. And what is it based on, EDH?
you can read the AR5 Technical Summary yourself, The Chief
the plot shows the baseline sea level rise back to 1700, and the departure of the rise in the industrial period. If you don't accept that (which is determined by the data) then you are unlikely to accept the methods of the forecast.
But if you were even to do a straight line projection of the current trend, you'd see that the sea level is rising over the "recent" past (before the 1850's).
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 16, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
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"prolonged pause in global warming."
should be: "period of relatively unchanging SST temperature"
you haven't shown that the "global warming" has paused...
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Oct 16, 2014 - 03:35pm PT
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LOL, more flat lines from a short period.
Good for you, Chief.
Now lets take a larger view:
Your 'pause' increases the long term warming trend.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 04:08pm PT
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Give it up and quite denying the reality!!!
This has to be a joke.
"IF" the PAUSE continues at the current trend for another 10-20 years, you all are gonna seriously need to go look for something else to whine about.
Hmmm, does anybody really believe this dribble?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 04:18pm PT
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Sketch, instead of asking for others to do research for you, can you please post another graph that shows your inability to grasp concepts?
It's so fun to watch you sarcastically call folks "Einstein" when it's so clear how clueless you are.
I might not know a lot about plotting graphs (and for that reason, I leave it to people who do), but I certainly know when somebody is so obviously trying to bend data to fit their agenda.
So please, one more cherry pick?
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Oct 16, 2014 - 04:18pm PT
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K-Man
Should this thread be deleted?
no one is going to change their mind
just goes back and forth with constant personal insults
must be what you guys want ?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 04:21pm PT
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Stand down Norton, I'm not going to delete it.
Didn't you start posting on dirtbag's tread the instant he reinstated Dr. F's deletion? (Oops, I see that's a misstatement!)
There is a ton of great stuff in this thread, even though the noise has gotten overpowering over time.
Besides, if I deleted this thread, that would set the clowns loose to move on to other threads and they'd begin to pollute the climbing content here on the Taco. Keeping them contained in one or to Off Topic threads is actually a service.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
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I politely ask someone for information, ...
Perhaps you can provide the parts of those reports, where the subject was covered in depth (ba dum bump).
This is you being "polite?"
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 16, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
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