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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:44am PT
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Your point was as clear as mud. So, as you did, I stand by my statement.
Most Schedule 1 belongs there. Psychotropic meds can be most helpful, but your job probably does not show you that as mine does daily. Over prescribed, you betcha. Comparing psychotropics to sched 1 drugs is about as accurate as comparing cars to guns though. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by your shitty ass analogies by this point.
Since I'm clearly such an obtuse idiot, maybe you can explain your original point in a more subtle and coherent manner that even us fools could grasp. We aren't as smart as you and don't have your expertise in this field.
Explain.
EDIT: No, marijuana is not f*#king medicine, not any more than alcohol is medicine.
Actually Marinol is a medicine from marijuana compounds.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:48am PT
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So that's it! Nice reply....
You got nothing?
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John M
climber
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:49am PT
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Sometimes I have a hard time understanding Blue, but what I think he meant to say is that since the Feds control schedule one drugs, then they could control psychotropic drugs. But they already are controlled, just not under a DEA schedule.
And health privacy laws would have to be changed in order for the knowledge of who is taking what drugs to be given to the ATF. And then you would have to decide which drugs were dangerous.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:49am PT
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Maybe you should call it a night Bluering. The sedatives should be kicking in shortly. go over and have one last look at the tittays and sweet dreams...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:55am PT
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Exactly. Hardly any of the uses of marijuana as medicine have anything to do with the "sick" guy in line with his card in hand at the dispensary.
I never said marijuana didn't have medicinal values. It does. It's a fact.
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John M
climber
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:57am PT
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I agree..
but.. this is the same argument the people who don't want semi automatics and assault rifles banned use.
At what point would you be stepping on 20% of the U.S. population's rights as outlined in the Constitution?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 01:04am PT
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I am not going to keep repeating myself because you can't read things the first time, Blue. You are completely missing the points I am making, so discussion is pointless.
Can you reiterate your main point in one brief sentence? Surely you can do that.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 20, 2012 - 01:16am PT
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Sh#t Jebus now he's gonna go over and rain on the tittie parade.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 01:18am PT
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One sentence summary, Bluey? You got it!
Bluering, resident retard, is a notorious mind suck here on Supertopo and is better off ignored since his drivel to reading comprehension ratio is massively skewed in the wrong direction.
G'night, Bluetard. You've claimed enough time from me this eve, ya rascal!
Nice. You are obviously too intellectually superior to engage with people like myself. Sorry for troubling you with honest discourse, and apparently too many questions.
Have a good night.
EDIT:
G'night, Bluetard. You've claimed enough time from me this eve, ya rascal!
Nice...
EDIT: WadeIcey, f*#k you! Hey wanna climb soon???
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 20, 2012 - 01:24am PT
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f*#k you! Hey wanna climb soon???
bluey f*#k you too! ..bipartisan cragging ASAP...I'm back in the bay after the first, Hippie!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 01:30am PT
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WadeIcey, we may have something special to show you by then....new.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 20, 2012 - 01:32am PT
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Ken,,he didnt have the money nor the experience to to purchase a weapon for himself. I taught him how to use it as well. Any other friggin thing you wanna pick on.
Pardon me??
Your friend did not have the experience to BUY a gun? Does he not know how money works? How did he get food, dive dumpsters? Why could you not give him the money, and have him buy it himself???
It is apparent that it was either illegal for him to buy it, or you were trying to hide the purchase by him.
I have, on a number of occasions, accompanied friends to a gun store to advise them on buying a gun, just as I have with cars.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Dec 20, 2012 - 03:09am PT
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The lessons:
1. There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. ...a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.
2. There are things you can do. Run is one of them, because most shooters can’t hit a moving target. The other, if you are in a confined space, is throw things at the killer, or try a tackle.
3. You simply can’t give a non-working, non-school-enrolled 20-year-old man free range of your home, much less your cache of weapons. You have to set boundaries. You have to say, “You can’t live here anymore — you’re an adult, and it’s time for you to be a man.
Can you believe that bullsh#t?
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335996/newtown-answers-nro-symposium#
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John M
climber
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Dec 20, 2012 - 03:51am PT
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Granite, your post looked like these were your thoughts. I had to go to the link to see that they weren't.
Yes.. It is crazy the things people believe.
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Degaine
climber
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Dec 20, 2012 - 04:28am PT
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bluering wrote:
Nice. You are obviously too intellectually superior to engage with people like myself. Sorry for troubling you with honest discourse, and apparently too many questions.
I would never refer to your posts as being purposefully dishonest, but at the very least they are are woefully ignorant and ill-informed, and often they are intellectually dishonest, for example criticizing Obama for something that Bush did over and over again and that you never had a problem with.
I'm not into ad hominem attacks, but you pretty much insult other posters without discretion and in a shotgun manner, much like The Chief, and your replies to 99% of my posts (when you reply to them) have been condescending if not down right insulting.
You don't see JElezarean (sp?) receiving the same flurry of insults that you do because he treats other people with respect(and quite honestly, you don't with regard to all discussions political).
You might want to work on that (oh, and I'll take your apology in a pm/email if you feel the need to save face in front of everyone here).
Cheers.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 20, 2012 - 09:12am PT
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Took me on a nice ride there Granite!
Looks like the "war on women" is still ongoing in some places! Lots of XX blame in those three short lessons. :/
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 10:50am PT
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-- Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.
 Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I'm excluding the shooters' deaths in these examples.)
Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.
Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates -- as well as the "trained campus supervisor"; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.
Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman's head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.
Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.
"William Landes at the University of Chicago and John Lott at Yale, conducted a massive study of multiple victim public shootings in the United States between 1977 and 1995 to see how various legal changes affected their frequency and death toll.
Landes and Lott examined many of the very policies being proposed right now in response to the Connecticut massacre: waiting periods and background checks for guns, the death penalty and increased penalties for committing a crime with a gun.
None of these policies had any effect on the frequency of, or carnage from, multiple-victim shootings. (I note that they did not look at reforming our lax mental health laws, presumably because the ACLU is working to keep dangerous nuts on the street in all 50 states.)
Only one public policy has ever been shown to reduce the death rate from such crimes: concealed-carry laws.
Their study controlled for age, sex, race, unemployment, retirement, poverty rates, state population, murder arrest rates, violent crime rates, and on and on.
The effect of concealed-carry laws in deterring mass public shootings was even greater than the impact of such laws on the murder rate generally."
and who's buying guns?
dmoecratic females in northern states:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/19/a-gun-ownership-renaissance/?wprss=rss_politics
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 20, 2012 - 11:06am PT
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Shhh bookworm,
people don't want to hear you.
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