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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 12, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
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Ed, TCR and ECS is not the same thing so please dont pretend that the IPCC is using a sensible estimate. That is simply misleading.
maybe you should explain the difference, sci-fi
or are you just reblogging stuff... and forgive me for asking but, since you are an anonymous troll I have no way of finding out...
did you actually go to college? if you did what did you study?
I ask this because dealing with Sketch I found out he is insulted when I assume he knows something he doesn't (he calls it talking over his head), I assume that he had no training in statistics (at any level) so it's all over his head.
I'm still waiting for him to discuss the variability and it's consequence on his linear tend lines...
and the slightly more advanced discussion of accuracy of models... for which he apparently has no idea of what is being talked about.
Or are you the same sort as rick, who has no idea about mathematics, but has the self professed ability to read a complicated science paper chalk full of mathematical equations and somehow "intuit" the meaning, and then render a verdict... such skill from someone lacking college...
We don't need to ask about The Chief...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 12, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
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There it is. Unless you know and understand the science, you have no room in any discussion regarding this issue.
so you are saying that you should have room in the discussion because you do not know or understand the science?
I guess that is what I would expect from someone with your background...
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sci-fi
climber
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:20pm PT
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Monolith, showing hockeystick graphs is so last century. Nobody takes these Mann-made figures seriously anymore.
Please show some real data instead of that manipulated junk.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:21pm PT
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That is all they have ,Mono.
Yes ,no empirical proof ,say only 90%,OR,VERY LIKELY,just not good enough for the non denier up in the Whites.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:32pm PT
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You should call me names ,you would feel better .
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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Denier
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
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Moose,He knows all and is always right.
sorry and cheers.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:43pm PT
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"Monolith, showing hockeystick graphs is so last century. Nobody takes these Mann-made figures seriously anymore.
Please show some real data instead of that manipulated junk. "
You mean no serious denialist or no serious troll?
There is no point in attempting a discussion with someone who can't read a CO2 graph and simply denies reality. Solar insolation just isn't changing beyond the usual minor cycles. And cosmic invaders haven't suddenly started shooting us with more powerful cosmic rayguns.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Oct 12, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
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Hey Chief,
you might actually learn something if you looked it up yourself,
instead of taking other people's time which you will just disregard anyway.
CO2 emissions are common knowledge and easily found.
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sci-fi
climber
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Oct 12, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
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Alarmists usually fall in one of two categories:
1) Group-thinkers who simply follow the heard
2) Fascists who do not tolerate opinons that deviate from theirs
We hear the 97% talking point over and over, but most dont realise that only the most extreme religious fanatics are not part of the 97%.
To be included you simply have to acknowledge that temperatures have changed during the past 50 years and that the there is a thing called the greenhouse effect. It does not say anything about the magnitude of these.
Anybody who claims that the climate science is settled does not have a clue about how science works.
Climate Science Is Not Settled
We are very far from the knowledge needed to make good climate policy, writes leading scientist Steven E. Koonin:
http://m.wsj.com/articles/climate-science-is-not-settled-1411143565?mobile=y
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Oct 12, 2014 - 10:28pm PT
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Chief,
Good work, you should publish that. I knew that you were already smarter than all climate scientists combined.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Oct 12, 2014 - 10:35pm PT
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Now Eddy, you aint going to hitch up the horse and head your wagon east before you get a chance to pay some california carbon taxes, are you? They have a word for people who advocate for something or another but dont practice it themselves or even think it applies to them. Now what would that word be? I know you know, and also know your mother would be sorely disappointed with this hypocritical behavior even more than uncivility on the internet.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 12, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
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don't worry rick, I'm not going anywhere...
by the way, are you voting in both AK and NV?
always worried about your kind...
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Oct 12, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
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And california where I'll be an undocumented unregistered democrat , but of course there are plenty of recently deceased and the just plain lazy that we just know would love to be a friggin liberal.
Oh, by the way Ed, I'm relieved to hear your not moving to D.C. to lobby for funding for AGW scientism funding. I mean you wouldn't be very good at it because after a total of 30, 000 + posts (over 10% of them yours) here ,there are more sceptucs sounding off than when you started. Not very convincing amigo.
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“Cosmic rays and solar activity ...apparently are the big changes, so please ignore AGW.
Let us know!