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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:43pm PT
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hahahahaa!
I wouldn't have passed that one up either!
hahahhaha! Still laughing out loud here. :)
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:46pm PT
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So if we got the Pope, why do we need unfettered access to military arms?
It was a joint-op. We weakened the Soviets and the Papa encouraged the Eastern Blok to dissolve.
That same Pope blessed me once in St Peter's Square. Really.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:47pm PT
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I'm not into gun control. I'm into controlling who should be allowed to have guns. are they not one in the same? think that's basically what most have been suggesting.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:47pm PT
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I didn't just get threatened... I got my GOD DAMN LIFE THREATENED AT GUN POINT... for doing donuts in a parking lot. You are clearly too fuking stupid to realize that it is NOT ACCEPTABLE to pull a gun in that situation... therefore, you don't deserve to have a gun.
Well, you never know.
A car can be a deadly weapon. People get shot by police, and by soldiers all the time. You may not have stopped when asked, and turned the car towards them, making them feel threatened. That's all it takes. You made them FEEL threatened with a deadly weapon.
We haven't heard about the alcohol fueling the situation, either, clouding your memory and your judgement.
Better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:51pm PT
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Well Ken you may not think so but there is ONE HELL of a difference between Saieso and the hoodlum homies. And I did not break a law one bub. Not friggin one. GET A CLUE.
Why did you buy a gun under your name and give it to your friend, instead of giving the money to your friend to buy a gun under his own name?
Give us all a clue.....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:51pm PT
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Meanwhile, first day of school in Texas:
I just bought one of those rifles, the second one she fires. Henry Arms AR-7.
And yeah, in 2-3 years my kid will be firing it.
EDIT: are they not one in the same? think that's basically what most have been suggesting.
Do I really need to explain the difference? Think.
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John M
climber
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Dec 19, 2012 - 11:56pm PT
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Blue..
We understand the difference. So no.. you do not need to explain. Do you understand that it is still controlling access to guns, which is a form of gun control? One form that we have been discussing.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:02am PT
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That could change. And should!
Very minimal adjustment needed. The bridge to agreement is shorter than we think.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:02am PT
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oops, sorry wrong thread. But she is carrying.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:05am PT
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Thats a single action.
I'm more into double action.
Just saying,..
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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Very minimal adjustment needed. The bridge to agreement is shorter than we think.
Yep!
JohnM, I understand! We are splitting hairs!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:09am PT
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1 in 5 Americans wouldn't be able to get a gun then. Who knew bluey was for such wide sweeping gun restrictions?
I stand by that statement. Just make sure you quote me as saying "psychotropic drugs".
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John M
climber
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:10am PT
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This is what I call armed and dangerous.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:14am PT
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That girl must take care of herself!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:16am PT
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Oh, wow, that means legislation to follow shortly! It seems like it would all be on the honor system with HIPPA involved. Nice idea though.
Talk to the Fed first, and the DEA after that re: Schedule 1 drugs.
Take another bong-rip, bra....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:26am PT
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Of which class psychotropic drugs are not.
Idiot? Really?
Maybe you should look into the effects of modern Schedule 1 drugs vs pharmacological drugs!
This is why kids are in danger from doctors! If if comes from a pharmacy it must be good, right? Doctor said so.
And super-potent strains of marijuana are all-natural gifts from the earth. Nature can do no psychotropic harm, right?
This is coming to you from a former pothead. Never got duped into the Pharma crap though...
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John M
climber
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:32am PT
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http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/law_fed_info1.shtml
NO CONTROL BUT Rx
Although they may be prescription drugs, the following drugs of abuse
are not in the above DEA Schedules: butalbital/acetominophen (Fiori-
cet, although its exact equivalent Fiorinal IS in C-III!), carisopro-
dol (Soma, similar to meprobamate), nalbuphine (Nubain), butorphanol
(Stadol), dezocine (Dalgan), phenytoin/phenobarbital (Dilantin with
phenobarbital), ketamine (Ketalar or Ketaset). Summary: includes
mixed agonist/antagonist narcotic analgesics, sedatives, and a
dissociative anesthetic.
It should be noted that many psychoactive drugs are neither con-
trolled substances NOR SHOULD BE. Neuroleptics such as chlorproma-
zine (Thorazine), haloperidol (Haldol), and thioridazine (Mellaril)
do not produce a "high" and can be downright unpleasant. Lithium
can be toxic and has no perceivable psychological effect. Anti-
depressants such as amitryptaline (Elavil) and fluoxetine (Prozac)
DO produce psychological effects, but they are not particularly
pleasant. The OLDER antidepressants, the MAO inhibitors such as tranyl-
cypromine (Parnate), can be argued for inclusion since they, after
about 2-4 weeks, produce an amphetamine-like high. However, they
are not controlled substances. The new antianxiety drug buspirone
(Buspar) is effective but does not produce any kind of soothing
sedation as does diazepam (Valium). Phenytoin (Dilantin) and
other anticonvulsants do not produce outward sedation except in
the case of toxic overdosage. Nicotine Rx preparations such as
Nicorette gum and Habitrol or Nicoderm transdermal patches can
be argued for inclusion as Controlled Substances due to nicotine's
extremely high abuse liability. It can also be put the other way:
since cigarettes are OTC, why have the other nicotine preparations
prescription drugs?
They aren't covered by the DEA's schedule of drugs which can be abused as they aren't considered something that makes you high.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:36am PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 20, 2012 - 12:37am PT
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They aren't covered by the DEA's schedule of drugs which can be abused as they aren't considered something that makes you high.
So what?
Schedule 1 drugs are ones with no proven medicinal value (which is kinda bullshit).
What's yer point?
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