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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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fattrad:
For the last year, oil companies have been using tankers out at sea for storage and the tanks at Cushing, OK are completely filled, for the short term we have excess oil.
Amazing how things always work better when the Republicans are out!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Amazing how there's no demand for oil when an economy is in collapse.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The next step will be guaranteeing of jobs or lifelong unemployment. Another Freudian slip - a concept that only a Republican could imagine.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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TGT cartoon only shows how really retarded the republicans party is! TGT...who is the party of "drill, baby, drill"? I think we all know the anwser.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Too funny, Anders!
John
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Throw in one of those marijuana cards and I'm in.
That says a lot, pothead....
TGT cartoon only shows how really retarded the republicans party is! TGT.
But if Norton or Dr. F does it it's cool?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Blue wrote: That says a lot, pothead....
Of course the massive amount of alcoholic you consume is much better for you? :-)
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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I never promote that. And i don't encourage it! Bob you should know this.
I do like my beers though...
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Blue wrote: I never promote that. And i don't encourage it! Bob you should know this.
Maybe you should...:-)...much better for you.
Had an amazing ride with my son today and just kicked back two Avery's IPA.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Are you mobilizing?
I got 'er covered.
Why do yo keep calling me a bike repairman, weirdo?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Why do yo keep calling me a bike repairman, weirdo?
Again, I ask the question? WTF???
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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I hear ya, Skip, I get no logical replies, just excuses.
This is why I gave up on this sh#t with these people on this thread. Just spouting crap, no accountability. Repubs are evils...Dems are great...bla, bla, bla......
I should have known better to waste my time here. Idiots!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Bike repairman. AH ha ha ha ha ha ...
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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"The rich are not paying their fair share in any nation that is facing these kinds of employment issues.
Brazil has the highest tax-to-GDP rate in the Western Hemisphere and guess what – they're growing like crazy.
And the rich are getting richer, but they're pulling people out of poverty. There is a certain formula there
that used to work for us, until we abandoned it, to our regret in my opinion."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/28/clinton-rich-arent-paying-fair-share/?fbid=nCwJKesJ-Yk
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apogee
climber
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Awright, you capitalist-Repugs (and Repubs- there's a difference, you know), I know you will write this off as yet another bullsh*t-commie-liberal-propaganda moment, but did you happen to see Jon Stewart's interview with Arthur Brooks, President of the American Enterprise Institute?
You know... the AEI- the premier conservative thinktank wellspring from which all of your media droids derive their talking points.
Brooks is promoting his new book, 'The Battle', which promotes the premise that there is a clear, defined subversive force at work in government today that is against the concept of entrepreneurialism, and is actively promoting a European-Socialist takeover of the US government.
Sound familiar? It should, as most of the media sources, links, blogs, and whackjobs that most of you post here either blatantly extoll this idea, or allude to it regularly.
It's actually a pretty good interview (within the context of being the Jon Stewart Daily Show), as Stewart gives Brooks reasonable time to make his case. Brooks is obviously a very smart man (even if I find the premise for his book far-fetched), and is one of the more articulate conservative guests I've seen on the Daily Show.
Anyway, check it out- and preferably, watch the full version of the interview- I'd be curious to hear your thoughts:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-1-2010/arthur-brooks
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armcrusher
Boulder climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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But, I heard from a famous talk radio show host that Liberalism is a mental disorder! Is this true?
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apogee
climber
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Sarah Palin Blames Environmentalists For Gulf Oil Disaster
First Posted: 06- 3-10 09:38 AM
Updated: 06- 3-10 09:47 AM
In her latest note on Facebook, Sarah Palin is blaming "extreme 'environmentalists'" for causing the gulf oil disaster that has been unfolding for over a month. Her logic is that because environmentalists push for tougher drilling regulations onshore in places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (also known as ANWR) it forces oil companies to explore deeper offshore drilling which has more risks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/sarah-palin-blames-enviro_n_598977.html
Ummmm.....yeah. OK.
Huh?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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tj said, "a government powerful enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take it all away"
i hear a lot of wealthy people claiming we need to "spread the wealth" all the while maintaining their own wealth (yep, barry, too)
The danger of a government with unlimited power
By George F. Will
Thursday, June 3, 2010; A17
Today, as it has been for a century, American politics is an argument between two Princetonians -- James Madison, Class of 1771, and Woodrow Wilson, Class of 1879. Madison was the most profound thinker among the Founders. Wilson, avatar of "progressivism," was the first president critical of the nation's founding. Barack Obama's Wilsonian agenda reflects its namesake's rejection of limited government.
Lack of "a limiting principle" is the essence of progressivism, according to William Voegeli, contributing editor of the Claremont Review of Books, in his new book "Never Enough: America's Limitless Welfare State." The Founders, he writes, believed that free government's purpose, and the threats to it, are found in nature. The threats are desires for untrammeled power, desires which, Madison said, are "sown in the nature of man." Government's limited purpose is to protect the exercise of natural rights that pre-exist government, rights that human reason can ascertain in unchanging principles of conduct and that are essential to the pursuit of happiness.
Wilsonian progressives believe that History is a proper noun, an autonomous thing. It, rather than nature, defines government's ever-evolving and unlimited purposes. Government exists to dispense an ever-expanding menu of rights -- entitlements that serve an open-ended understanding of material and even spiritual well-being.
The name "progressivism" implies criticism of the Founding, which we leave behind as we make progress. And the name is tautological: History is progressive because progress is defined as whatever History produces. History guarantees what the Supreme Court has called "evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society."
The cheerful assumption is that "evolving" must mean "improving." Progressivism's promise is a program for every problem, and progressivism's premise is that every unfulfilled desire is a problem.
Franklin Roosevelt, an alumnus of Wilson's administration, resolved to "resume" Wilson's "march along the path of real progress" by giving government "the vibrant personal character that is the very embodiment of human charity." He repudiated the Founders' idea that government is instituted to protect pre-existing and timeless natural rights, promising "the re-definition of these rights in terms of a changing and growing social order."
He promised "a right to make a comfortable living." Presumably, the judiciary would define and enforce the delivery of comfort. Specifically, there could be no right to "do anything which deprives others" of whatever "elemental rights" the government decides to dispense.
Today, government finds the limitless power of dispensing not in Madison's Constitution of limited government but in Wilson's theory that the Constitution actually frees government from limitations. The liberating -- for government -- idea is that the Constitution is a "living," evolving document. Wilson's Constitution is an emancipation proclamation for government, empowering it to regulate all human activities in order to treat all human desires as needs and hence as rights. Unlimited power is entailed by what Voegeli calls government's "right to discover new rights."
"Liberalism's protean understanding of rights," he says, "complicates and ultimately dooms the idea of a principled refusal to elevate any benefit that we would like people to enjoy to the status of an inviolable right." Needs breed rights to have the needs addressed, to the point that Lyndon Johnson, an FDR protege, promised that government would provide Americans with "purpose" and "meaning."
Although progressivism's ever-lengthening list of rights is as limitless as human needs/desires, one right that never makes the list is the right to keep some inviolable portion of one's private wealth or income, "regardless," Voegeli says, "of the lofty purposes social reformers wish to make of it."
Lacking a limiting principle, progressivism cannot say how big the welfare state should be but must always say that it should be bigger than it currently is. Furthermore, by making a welfare state a fountain of rights requisite for democracy, progressives in effect declare that democratic deliberation about the legitimacy of the welfare state is illegitimate.
"By blackening the skies with crisscrossing dollars," Voegeli says, the welfare state encourages people "to believe an impossibility: that every household can be a net importer of the wealth redistributed by the government." But the welfare state's problem, today becoming vivid, is socialism's problem, as Margaret Thatcher defined it: Socialist governments "always run out of other people's money."
Wilsonian government, meaning (in Wilson's words) government with "unstinted power," is hostile to Madison's Constitution, which, Madison said, obliges government "to control itself." Thus our choice is between government restraint rooted in respect for nature, or government free to follow History wherever government says History marches.
georgewill@washpost.com
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