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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Fat wrote: Bob,
Bush had to clean up the dot.bomb bust left over from Clinton. Anyone remember NASDAQ 5000?
All Bush did was created wars, cater to big oil and corporations and tell Americans to grab their ankles.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Hey Skippy sounds like it worked pretty well.
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Degaine
climber
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Fattrad wrote:
Not keeping people in homes that they never should have purchased in the first place.
You mean loans that the banks never should have authorized nor made in the first place.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Fattrad wrote:
Not keeping people in homes that they never should have purchased in the first place.
You mean loans that the banks never should have authorized nor made in the first place.
I agree with both comments. The banks should not have loaned, and the borrowers should not have borrowed. How does fault change the fact that our government is now trying to maintain this untenable situation?
John
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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"All Bush did was created wars, cater to big oil and corporations and tell Americans to grab their ankles."
been watching the koreas and the middle east, lately? yes, yes, i'm sure that's all bush's fault, too
oh, and all that money from big oil (particularly bp) that went to barry after which bp just coincidentally received waivers on environmental and safety inspections
and let's not forget passing a health care bill that every poll in america clearly indicated was opposed by a majority of voters--talk about an elected official telling his constituents to 'bend over...and like it'
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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You're delusional.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Fat wrote: Of course the public wants "free" health care, that's what Obama is promising them. But, Canada is cutting back on it and Europe is about to lose most of it, it won't work here either.
Again...I think you have major issues with Obama.
We pay taxes...it isn't free...do you understand stand that.
Maybe use the money we send to Israel every year would be a good start.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp
Read it and weep...we spend almost ten times more than number 2 and more than all the countries combined.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Keep speaking truth Bob.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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You're delusional.
You suck!!!
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apogee
climber
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#1: You're a jerk.
#2: I know you are, but what am I?
#1: You're a jerk.
#2: I know you are, but what am I?
#1: You're a jerk.
#2: I know you are, but what am I?
Continue ad nauseum.
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Degaine
climber
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Fattrad,
There's nothing free about the healtchare in Europe. Everyone pay's in and everyone benefits. Take France for example: exemplary care, everyone has access and it's half the cost per capita than the US.
The healthcare bill was a victory for Republicans - it's a completely gutted version of what Obama had originally promised. Seriously, no public option and the Republicans are still complaining!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Fat wrote: That amount may have saved us from a dirty bomb or a real nuke:
How far is Syria from the US and how are they going to get it here??
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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And that would be better, because?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Degaine wrote:
Take France for example: exemplary care, everyone has access and it's half the cost per capita than the US.
The reason they pay less per capita is because they cover less. Things like cancer (in particular) and end of life care in general cost a lot of money. Here, where people have a choice, we largely pay for that. In Europe, where often people have no practical choice, they do not.
Also, as fattrad points out, the demographics are turning against the European/Japanese welfare state model. All of them are supported by current workers. As the current worker to nonworker ratio increases, the tax burden increases dramatically.
Americans generally are beginning to understand that, except those on the left. They still think you can pay for all this by raising taxes on the productive.
John
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tomtom
Social climber
Seattle, Wa
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How's that oil spill working out?
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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How's that oil spill working out?
It's interesting. When Dick Cheney was president, every time a refinery shutdown for a shift for maintenance, the price of gas went up $1. Now a well has been destroyed and out of action for a month, and no change in the price of gas.
Curious.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The wankiest generation is also known as baby boomers, or yuppies.
And generation X, and the so-called millenials, may not be doing much better.
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