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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 11, 2016 - 02:42pm PT
The biggest problem with large scale aquifer storage is who owns the storage.


This is the crux.

Say we take actions that fill that underground reservoir. Who pays for that?
Only the farmers and town of the valley benefit, but the whole state chips in.

The mechanics of filling are fairly straightforward engineering.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 11, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
But, we are a long ways away.

Take Lake Isabella, with 48,000 ac-ft today.

With a capacity of 568,000.

A lot of filling to be done.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Mar 11, 2016 - 03:36pm PT
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Snow, snow, and more snow! The visitor center will be closing early today due to severe weather. Several new feet (up to 90 inches) of snow are forecast to fall over the next few days so be prepared if you decide to venture outside this weekend! http://ow.ly/ZjDkH

Snowing in Yosemite Valley.. right now..

Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 14, 2016 - 08:40am PT
Clear Lake (the largest natural lake completely within the borders of California) hit full today
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 14, 2016 - 11:46am PT
hey there say, guys... and nita...

wow, thanks for sharing...

man oh man, nita! that is some snow shot, there...

and this is 'as of today' (like, meaning, how long did
it take to get to this point) wow! :O
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 15, 2016 - 07:18am PT
today's graph for Lake Shasta

couchmaster

climber
Mar 16, 2016 - 05:27pm PT


Great chart on where the reservoirs are historically on Mar 14th vs where they are today.


With some good news as well, quote:
"After the recent storms, here are the reservoir levels at some of California's major reservoirs as of March 14, 2016. About a quarter of the state's reservoirs are above average levels for this time of the year."
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 16, 2016 - 08:06pm PT
It's funny, your chart shows Shasta only 81% to the average for March 14. The chart I posted (from the California water resources board) shows it above the historical average for March 15.

With these latest storms it was rising 5+ feet a day!

If you look at today's chart, it is quickly closing in on the bright green (1982-1983 wet year). Well above the historical average
Bob Harrington

climber
Bishop, California
Mar 16, 2016 - 09:12pm PT
That's 81% of capacity, not percent of average to-date.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 16, 2016 - 09:26pm PT
thanks Bob. Been a long day. :)
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Mar 17, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
Daily summary CDEC report
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/reports/DROUGHTSUM

Lake Mead level
http://mead.uslakes.info/Level.asp

Lake Powell - winter runoff was average. Spring runoff forecast is 80%.
"Current runoff projections into Lake Powell are provided by the National Weather Service’s Colorado Basin River Forecast Center and are as follows:
Observed unregulated inflow into Lake Powell for the month of February was 0.396 maf or 101 percent of the 30-year average from 1981 to 2010. The
forecast for March unregulated inflow into Lake Powell is 0.700 maf or 105 percent of the 30-year average. The 2016 April through July unregulated inflow forecast is 5.70 maf or 80 percent of average."
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/24mo.pdf

Colorado river basin Snowpack
http://www.cbrfc.noaa.gov/lmap/lmap.php?interface=snow
http://graphs.water-data.com/ucsnowpack/

Colorado River forecast map
http://www.cbrfc.noaa.gov/lmap/lmap.php?interface=wsup

Lees Ferry Annual flow
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/annual/?referred_module=sw&site_no=09380000&por_09380000_1=19133,00060,1,1922,2016&year_type=W&format=html_table&date_format=YYYY-MM-DD&rdb_compression=file&submitted_form=parameter_selection_list


Here's something new to me-
I noticed that Las Vegas gets a huge return credit for wastewater, which I don't know of any other state getting.
https://www.lvwash.org/assets/pdf/resources_lvwcamp_ch2.pdf
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/hourly/forecast.pdf
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 19, 2016 - 07:56am PT
We have a *cap & trade* scheme at work in California to fix that, which adds ten cents to every gallon of gas. So we don't have to concern ourselves with climate change here anymore, because we paid at the pump.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Mar 21, 2016 - 11:22pm PT
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My local reservoir..with a cool slide bar picture thingy.

http://www.chicoer.com/general-news/20160321/lake-oroville-hits-flood-control-limit-may-have-to-release-water
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:00pm PT
has some cool pics

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-el-nino-landscape-reservoirs-20160323-htmlstory.html
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:23pm PT
State of affairs in the Colorado Basin

At the beginning of water year 2016, total system storage in the
Colorado River Basin was 30.0 maf (50% of 59.6 maf total system
capacity). This is nearly the same as the total storage at the
beginning of water years 2014 and 2015 which began at 29.9 maf and 30.0 maf, respectively, both of which were 50% of capacity. Since the beginning of water year 2000, total Colorado Basin storage has experienced year to year increases and decreases in response to wet and dry hydrology, ranging from a high of 94% of capacity at the beginning of 2000 to a low of 50% of capacity at the beginning of water year 2005. One wet year can significantly increase total system reservoir storage, just as persistent dry years can draw down the system storage. Based on current inflow forecasts, the current projected end of water year total Colorado Basin reservoir storage for water year 2016 is approximately 29.4 maf (49% of total system capacity). The actual end of water year 2016 system storage may vary from this projection, primarily due to uncertainty regarding the season's snowpack and resulting runoff and reservoir inflow. Based on the January minimum and maximum probable inflow forecasts and modeling, the range of end of water year 2016 total system capacity is approximately 27.4 maf (46%) to 34.1 maf (57%), respectively. The minimum and maximum probable scenarios will be updated again in April.

This update courtesy of Paul Davidson, Bureau of Reclamation
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
Mar 25, 2016 - 09:31am PT
Historically, Colorado gets our biggest storms in March and April. Many of our ski resorts in Colorado have 7 ft. of snow and we just had another 15 inches of super wet snow in Denver with another 4-6 "arriving this weekend. I'm pretty sure the snowpack in the Colorado basin is going to be better than what the estimate above is saying.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 28, 2016 - 09:53am PT
A late season bonus on the first mountain range east of The Sierra. Assuming a like, or greater amount, in the Sierra it should help those resorvoirs pictured by DMT above inch towards their high water marks.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 28, 2016 - 10:09am PT
What about Hetch Hetchy? Hard to judge the height of those trees to determine the elevation to full, but I'm guessing 50'-100'.
monolith

climber
state of being
Apr 1, 2016 - 05:22pm PT
Hell of a lot better than last year.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 7, 2016 - 03:02pm PT
^^^
I heard a similar story on NPR a few weeks back that explained that the Saudis also purchased large tracts of land in Arizona for the same purpose of growing hay to ship back to Saudi Arabia. They tap the aquifer hard given the water intensive nature of hay and the heat of Arizona. More of your precious drinking water getting shipped overseas.
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