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bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:17pm PT
Jesse, we don't have reasonable gun regulation now?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
Bluey: What regulations are in place? I mean, I know tanks and sh#t aren't allowed, but I'm not up on this.

I think (but am not sure) 'automatic' weapons are banned. But also, my understanding is the definition of "automatic" weapon differs jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

What exactly is now banned?

And how does registration work?

I know both my parents have CCW, but I know the process to get that was weak-sauce (TX).

Would really love some info on this stuff.
John M

climber
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
Ron.. I just think that what you keep repeating as the reason you don't trust Obama is false. Don't trust him.. thats fine by me. I don't really trust him either. So what. but I don't repeat falsehoods as some ambiguous truth.

Blue.. upthread we have discussed limiting access to semiautomatic weapons and large clips. Its just a discussion. I just don't understand why your only answer is one of two extremes when many people have said they don't favor eliminating all guns. That is an NRA talking point and I believe that it is baloney.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:25pm PT
Thanks Ron. Damn. That sweet deal on a tank I was working over Craigslist doesn't look like it's gonna happen now. :)
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:26pm PT
There is no federal assault ban now. Expired in 2004.

California and a few states have them now.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:29pm PT
So, what exactly is banned now? I believe it differs place to place? I know some feel lots is banned - I don't know what is and isn't.

edit: And I think (but won't bet on it) that what is banned differs cosmetically from what isn't. No real difference between some banned and not-banned items? Help?
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:30pm PT
Basically, new full auto machine guns made after 1986 are banned at the Fed level.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
Thanks monolith!

Reading this now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_%28by_state%29
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
Crimpie, CCW in Texas is easy. California is almost impossible unless you're Sean Penn (Hollywood) or right-wing radio host (death threats).

Regs?

Background checks through the ATF. EVERY gun purchase requires this. As far as I know this is a Fed Law across ALL states. (Unless you're running guns to Mexico, then they let that slide).

THAT IS THE DEAL-BREAKER. In Calif I have to wait 15 days after I purchase a gun before I can walk out with it.

This process would be greatly improved if in that period they did a 'national pharma search' to see if I was receiving psycotropic drugs. As of now it is merely a checkbox on the gun-form. "Do you suffer from mental illness", or something like that.

That could change. And should!

Did Dave receive his gift?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:34pm PT

Ken ,,,Saieso was my friend. He feared for his life and i knew that to be correct.. Remember SA in the 70s??>?


I will remember that you will violate firearms sales laws when you feel like it.

The excuse you give is exactly the same as all perps, looking out for their homies.
John M

climber
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:35pm PT
That could change. And should!

One minute you say we have plenty of gun control laws, and now you want to add a new one. Do you see why you drive some people kind of nuts?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:35pm PT
Yes Bluey - received and being enjoyed. Lots of photos taken so a mini-TR is in the works. Hoping he gets it up tonight or tomorrow. Very kind of you! :)

edit: Gets the PHOTOS up tonight or tomorrow. hahaha!
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:37pm PT
Perhaps doctors and mental health professionals need to be required to start asking about weapons in the home when diagnosing mental illness or prescribing particular medications.

I believe a couple of states, Florida I think, have enacted laws that prohibit doctors from asking about firearms or counseling about firearm safety.

Of course, this is done by Republicans, who philosophically are opposed to gov't intruding on private conversations between people.

Right.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:37pm PT
Hoping he gets it up tonight or tomorrow

wtf?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:38pm PT

One minute you say we have plenty of gun control laws, and now you want to add a new one. Do you see why you drive some people kind of nuts?

I'm not into gun control. I'm into controlling who should be allowed to have guns.

Callie? Cheers!

Woot! Good stuff!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:38pm PT
DRF, How about some pics of flowers
This place smells like a morgue
John M

climber
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
'm not into gun control. I'm into controlling who should be allowed to have guns.

That would still be a law that controls access to guns. Something that we have been discussing.
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:41pm PT
The Pope and the threats from the US via out-arming them and them going broke as a result.

So if we got the Pope, why do we need unfettered access to military arms?

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:42pm PT
Touche Kennyt!

I'm crying from laughing. Good one. :)
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Dec 19, 2012 - 11:43pm PT
Sorry I couldn't pass it up
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