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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 20, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
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Here's one, Philo. Try not to smile!
This goes back almost 30 years.
Mid '80s. I'm tending bar in a bowling alley ( Henny might know where it's at ).
Hundreds of people bowled there then, and at one time I could count the number of black customers on one hand.
The bar there was, well, let's just say it wasn't exactly a genteel joint. The jukebox featured both kinds of music; Country and Western. There were more types of Marlboro in the cigarette machine than there were wines in our "cellar". There was a fight more weekends than there wasn't, and sometimes on school nights, too.
A black guy walks in one night, and he sits at the bar. He's missing a hand, wacked off midway between his elbow and his wrist. Guy orders a beer with an obvious foreign accent.
His name was Brihani. He was from Eretria. I didn't know where the hell Eretria was, so he gave me a quick bar-napkin geography lesson, better than anything I got in high school ( and better than anything I was liable to get if I had stayed in school ).
Then the next night, he came in again. And almost every night that week. Before long, I'm hearing about the situation between Eretria and Ethiopia. Although I never did ask about his missing hand, I got the feeling it had something to do with that beef.
After a couple of weeks, he brings in a friend - another Eretrian. This guy's missing a wrist, too, and a leg. I never got his name. Two customers usually talk to each other, so their conversation with the bartender is normally limited to "hi, how ya doin'?" and "whaddya having?".
After a while, more of their Eretrian pals started hanging out. This was turning into a pretty good bar business for us.
A few months go by, and I see one of the Etrian guys walk in carrying a bowling bag with a woman ( so far, the bowling alley had been their boy's night out ). A few minutes later, there's another Etrian couple, also geared up to bowl.
These guys joined bowling leagues!
I had to see what this looked like, so after the initial league-start-up bar rush subsided, I walked out to the lanes to find out. These East African couples weren't on the same team, they were on two different teams, paired up with white couples.
After they finished bowling, they had to stop at the bar, of course. And the usual crowd of goat-ropers got along just fine with them, and their friends and families who came to watch them bowl. Party Time!
As this bowling league was what's called a "Vegas League", they all go to Las Vegas to bowl their final session and party it up.
These Eretrians seemed to fit right in, in one of the last places you would expect.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 20, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
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Ron wrote: hey bobda, you may have noticed, well probably knott, but i didnt bring it up, but rather a response to others that did.
You bring it up all the time, day after day, week after week. Like a broken record. No one give a sh#t that you are 1/8 anything.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 20, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
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...skittley dee bop boo deep oo bop boo..go man go...blow that horn...
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 20, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
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so WHY did HE interfere in the first place and force this trial?
so tell us exactly how the President "forced" this trial, Ron?
give us the timeline when he ordered the state of Florida to try Zimmerman
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 20, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
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Ron wrote: just the facts Norton,, just the facts.
Like the fact that you have shot white people.
What a lying sack you are.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Jul 20, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
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Here's the official definition for you, since you seem to have some inability to actually query google: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes/overview
Most approprite is the part about simply hating not being a crime.
Did the perp hate white people? Probably isn't too fond of them. But this was a crime of impulsive opportunity and a warped brain, not of racism. I think he would've done the same to whoever was there and looked vulnerable.
I do feel sad for you carrying around so much hate in your heart; must be exhausting. The world you want to inhabit ended 50-odd years ago. Perhaps you can find an empty chair to tell your troubles to.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 20, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
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Barry's favorite race baiter.
Wait till she finds out how much he owes the IRS in back taxes.
(Forget about that. He's immune from collection for at least an other couple of years)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 20, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
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Ron wrote: HAHHAHAA no bobda. I havent lied one friggin bit. Hell,at age 10, i shot my BROTHER Mike with a bow and arrow because he pissed me off. Dropped him from seventy five yards right in the back of the thigh. To the ground he went.
You really are a big joke.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 20, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
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Jim...my brother was 13 months older than me...used to kick my ass till I was around 16, never felt the urge to shoot him with a gun or bow...things changed and I fought back harder with my fists (no bows, no rocks). Ron really is sad excuse for a human.
I think if one of my kids shot anybody with a bow at 10 I would least sought out some help for him/her...not the kinda thing a stable kid does.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 20, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
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Ron wrote: and bobda,, really,, just shut theee fukk up... yur embarassing.
Really...the little twit who claims to shot his brother and other white people is not the f*#k upped one.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jul 20, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
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ppffff...
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 20, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
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waiting on Ron
so WHY did HE interfere in the first place and force this trial?
so tell us exactly how the President "forced" this trial, Ron?
give us the timeline when he ordered the state of Florida to try Zimmerman
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 20, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
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Patience Norton. It will take Ron a bit to scan the John Birch websites to provide an answer.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jul 20, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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I think George Zimmerman's problem has less to do with racism...than the fact he's a narcissistic sociopath. (Mr Zimmerman's maternal great-grandfather was black and he was outspoken about justice for abuses of the local black homeless)
A sociopathic person contrives an imaginary conception of what is right and what is true in the world. Sociopaths are self-occupied, disheartened about reality...and rarely take accountability for evil and injustice that result from their actions. People who question or challenge their perception of themselves will fall victim to a narcissistic crackup that will redeem their self-concept to others.
Because that self-idol posed to society is so preeminent to a sociopath, they may feel it needful to safeguard their personae employing any imperative measures to secure impression of grandiose being.
Sociopaths do not see error in their own exploits... and are convinced they are in the right and everyone else is culpable for troubling circumstances. When circumstances do not play out the way they desire... they defend their own performance by faulting everyone else.
Much vigilante behavior starts with a narcissistic conception that presumes the universe is a better place now that they are in control. The warped sense that no one can execute the task as themselves... and that all things are superior now that they have command. Vigilantes usually ignore the rules they do not concur with, and contrive "other" methods more useful to themselves.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 20, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
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Well ok then Ron
You have, for once, admitted to being at the same
time wrong and a liar.
So then, why did you make the decision to
lie about your President?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 21, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jul 21, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
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Ron declared Im willing to bet NO ONE on this forum has EVER discriminated against some one over the colour of their skin- NOT ONE. I believe that to be the truth.
I can promise you quite emphatically that is not true. Your desperate belief that that is true is also what makes you blind to the discrimination around you. You being a white guy living amongst a bunch of dead animals in the middle of the desert might...just MIGHT...make you a little naive to what goes on in the rest of the country.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jul 21, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
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Officer Wagner took this photo of the back of George's head, at the scene, before EMS used peroxide to clean the blood. Notice the streams of blood have a defined path flowing toward the front of GZ's face which is not consistent with bleeding on his back. Also, the streams are not consistent with Zimmerman laying on his back, getting his head slammed against a sidewalk over a dozen times while simultaneously "squirming" and "shimmying" on his back to get his head off of the sidewalk...as George claimed.
No blood residue was found on the sidewalk. (it was raining but not raining hard)
But if George had been on his back strugging, allegedly being hit in the face 25 to 30 times and having his head slammed into the sidewalk a dozen times...wouldn't there be smearing and smudging of blood rather than streams flowing toward the front of his head?
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