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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 17, 2009 - 09:52pm PT
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Yep, its definitely a stream.
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 17, 2009 - 10:03pm PT
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And your point?
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jeremy11
Trad climber
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Mar 17, 2009 - 10:28pm PT
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"It's time for the power of positive thinking. Everything is getting better! Tony Robbins told me so."
Ever heard of the Second Law of Thermodynamics?
"The entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium."
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Mar 18, 2009 - 10:33am PT
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la. la. lala. la.
meanwhile, over here in reality, change is happening.
the lessons afforded by eight years of republican rule are being heeded.
ya had your chance skippy. now get out of the way of progress, or else it will politely scoot you aside and leave you hacking up the dusty babble of a charlatan.
here's a pabst. wash that down kid. really.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 18, 2009 - 10:58am PT
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that's right warbler...socialized medicine, nationalized banks, open borders, weakened defense, increasingly more powerful and belligerent enemies, etc., have not been born...that's why we should kill them now, while they're still in the womb...after all, as you would agree, since they haven't been born, they're not real ideas anyway
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 19, 2009 - 06:49am PT
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http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-%e2%80%9cdepression%e2%80%9d-for-us-idiots/
the money quote:
"I feel like Winston Smith in Oceania, confused about all the doublethink coming out of Washington. Great Depression—no Great Depression. Recession for years; its end at the end of this year. Signing statements bad; signing statements good. Fundamentals hardly strong; fundamentals really sound. Earmarks terrible; 8,000 wonderful. Bush’s $500 billion deficit reckless; Obama’s $1.7 sober and judicious; Iraq horrific and the worst whatever; Iraq suddenly quiet, democratic, and hopeful; highest ethical bar in an administration ever—Richardson, Daschle, Killefer, Solis, etc. cannot meet the lowest; Guantanamo a Stalag; Guantanamo open for a year, pending the recommendations of a “task force”; Guantanamo a torture place for unlawful combatants; Guantanamo a nice place without unlawful combatants; Obama not to be blamed for massive collapse of stock prices since November; Obama to be praised for modest gains last week. At some point, someone in the media must be getting embarrassed that they are all working at the Ministry of Truth."
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 19, 2009 - 09:20am PT
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"before you slit your wrists"
winston smith didn't slit his wrists (and i didn't write the paragraph, which is why i used quotation marks), but i assume you're a product of the public school system so i shouldn't be surprised
"After all, much of what went on was top secret and conducted in back rooms"
and, yet, you seem to know so much of 'what went on'...were you in those back rooms, too? do tell...or by 'top secret' and 'back rooms', you mean publicly?
"the media often gets the facts WRONG"
true, however, you can't blame the media for what OBAMA says; you might blame his teleprompter (or the rare lack thereof), but his words speak for themselves, especially when they're caught on tape...granted, vdh didn't use quotation marks, but i'll find the appropriate quotes if you insist
"the chains and blindfolds have been removed"
what is it, exactly, that we don't know?
"exclusively embedded and refused permission to roam at will"
and when were they allowed to 'roam at will' in a war zone? and what were we not told about the war? and why didn't any of your intrepid reporters sneak into iraq themselves?
allow me to make a point about obama's decision to display coffins of dead soldiers...this is/was a tradition to protect the families of fallen soldiers (like cops not announcing the names of murder victims until the family is notified)...the ONLY purpose this can serve is propoganda...nobody in the bush administration (and, as far as i know, since vietnam, which was run by dems, by the way) lied about the number of americans killed or wounded in iraq or afghanistan...further, photos of the coffins can be displayed ONLY with the premission of the families...so, rok, your intrepid reporters can now go to the grieving families of fallen soldiers, stick a mic or waiver form in their faces and boldly ask, "mind if we show your kid's/husband's/wife's/brother's/sister's/dad's/mom's coffin on the front page/nightly news because it's vital to make sure people know that people die in war and even though we are allowed already to give their names and show their pictures and film their funerals, which already include their coffins, a picture of your kid's/husband's/wife's/brother's/ sister's/dad's/mom's coffin being unloaded from an airplane would be just so much more, well, vital as i'm sure you can understand in this time of sorrow"
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 19, 2009 - 10:40am PT
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thanks to obama for proving my point about rok's hurry-up media:
"But today, President Obama took that rhetoric in a different direction. He actually upped the ante explaining that AIG is like a suicide bomber.
“We had to step in, it was the right thing to do, even though it is infuriating,” Obama said, explaining why the government needed to bail out the troubled banks.
“The same is true with AIG,” he said. “It was the right thing to do to step in. Here’s the problem. It’s almost like they’ve got — they’ve got a bomb strapped to them and they’ve got their hand on the trigger. You don’t want them to blow up. But you’ve got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger.”
of course, what obama really means is that aig is much worse than suicide bombers...after all, aig got $150 billion, and we only gave hamas $900 million
ok, the aig as suicide bomber simile is silly, but i am concerned about obama's strategy (ok, maybe it's a tactic) for dealing with a suicide bomber:
"ok, buddy, take it easy...everything's going to be ok...i understand you're feeling some anger, right now, maybe even a lot of anger, but we can deal with this...just go to your happy pl--"
"DEATH TO AMERICA!"
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dirtbag
climber
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Mar 19, 2009 - 11:30am PT
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yawn
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 20, 2009 - 06:35am PT
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sorry, but he's the gift that just keeps giving...maybe he should let biden start talking again
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html
alright, let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt: "The president made an off-hand remark making fun of his own bowling that was in no way intended to disparage the Special Olympics," White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton said. "He thinks the Special Olympics is a wonderful program that gives an opportunity for people with disabilities from around the world"
soooooooo...maybe what obama meant is that he thinks the presidency is like the special olympics because it's "a wonderful program that gives an opportunity for people with disabilities from around the world"...
i guess he might also say his foreign policy is like the make-a-wish foundation
oh, wait...apparently i owe the president an apology... these "gaffes" aren't his fault (i think)
http://baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com/
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Mar 20, 2009 - 08:02am PT
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an underlying mood of acceptance, confidence and gratitude has swept across the nation, with enuf momentum that it has bounded right across both oceans and linked hands on continents afar.
you see it. and feel it. fer gawds sake, it's the truth on the tip of your nose.
your sorry little attempts to dissuade this chorus of morale is in vain.
carry on though. as it must straighten out your spine or something.
for, a man motivitated by the genius of genuine intentions is putting the wrench to this rattling beast of a nation, tackling one bush fuk up after another. and he has the support of the vast, vast majority.
you simply cannot dis-prove the truth. not even with all of the little girl drama that you are throwing at it.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 20, 2009 - 09:38am PT
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you're right, norwegian, it's all about "acceptance, confidence and gratitude"...if we all just smile and hug each other, things will turn out ok, or even better: banks will give money to anyone who asks for it, and the government will repay the banks; companies will hire anyone who asks for a job, and the government will pay their salaries (but no bonuses); doctors will cure anyone who's sick and the government will pay all the medical bills; colleges will admit anyone who applies, and the government will pay their tuition and room and board; best of all, despots and "so-called" terrorist organizations will see the error of their ways and will embrace multiculturalism, tolerance, human rights, and peaceful demonstration
it's all about the way things should be and not the way they are:
"Obama has been strangely passive about this single greatest threat to the country. In his address to Congress and his budget, he's been far more interested in his grand program for reshaping the American social contract in health care, energy and education.
Obama delegates to Geithner plans for a bailout -- and Geithner (thus far) delivers nothing. Obama delegates to Nancy Pelosi and her congressional grandees the writing of all things fiscal -- and gets a $787 billion stimulus package that is a wish list of liberal social spending, followed by a $410 billion omnibus spending bill festooned with pork and political paybacks.
That bill, we now discover, contains, among other depth charges, a Teamster-supported provision inserted by Sen. Byron Dorgan that terminates a Bush-era demonstration project to allow some Mexican trucks onto American highways, as required under NAFTA.
If you thought the AIG hysteria was a display of populist cynicism directed at a relative triviality, consider this: There are more than 6.5 million trucks in the United States. The program Congress terminated allowed 97 Mexican trucks to roam among them. Ninety-seven! Shutting them out not only undermines NAFTA. It caused Mexico to retaliate with tariffs on 90 goods affecting $2.4 billion in U.S. trade coming out of 40 states."
from krauthammer's column today in wapo
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Mar 20, 2009 - 09:46am PT
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it is not about hugging and blind optimism bookworm.
our 'team' morale is high because we as a majority believe in and trust our moral leader.
this is the infant position we must take as we begin to heal and then prepare to progress.
hugs are great when their great. but your low blows to a man handed a platter of shite by mr. bush are premature and in vain.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Mar 20, 2009 - 10:10am PT
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"our moral leader"?
seriously? you choose as your "moral leader" a guy who isn't even smart enough to understand a joke about retarded people might offend some people?
anyway, here's another one from that right-wing hack factory the la times:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/03/obama-newspaper.html
barring the press from a press award ceremony! at least he's not going to bar them from "roaming at will" around a war zone
and then there's this from the ap:
"President Barack Obama says his embattled treasury chief, Timothy Geithner, is doing an "outstanding job."'
look out, timmy, the bus just turned down your street
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Mar 20, 2009 - 11:08am PT
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Don't worry Timmy, Booktool is saving you a seat on the "special" bus...
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