Prop. 8 Supporters--YOU SUCK!!!

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S.Powers

Social climber

Jtree, now in Alaska

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:10pm PT

"Is having sex with children wrong? Consenting animals who hump your leg are clearly consenting to sex, right? Maybe that should be acceptable, after all, it's consensual. It doesn't hurt anybody. In fact both are receiving love and pleasure from it...right?"

It's such a slippery slope.

NON OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH GAYS GETTING MARRIED!!!!

Jaybro

Social climber

wuz real!

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:11pm PT

So, gayness is 'BAD', got it.

one bathroom is fine...

John Moosie

climber

Beautiful California

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:11pm PT

"You're wrong. Morality is a strict thing that isn't to be watered down and 'interpreted'. It is a line you do not cross.

No, you're wrong. Biblical morals are atrocious (child abuse, gang rape, incest, genocide, etc.) "

Blue, morals have changed. At one time it was okay to own slaves. Should we go back to that? The Bible clearly states we can own slaves.

The bible states that we can own slaves as long as they are not from our own country. I personally want to own some Mexicans. They will work for beans. Those Canadians just want to drink beer and beer is expensive.

kelly slater

climber

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:19pm PT

I do not need to change my viewpoint and acceptance. Vote yes on PROP 8 and enjoy the fact that a marriage is really between a man and a woman.

kelly slater

climber

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:21pm PT

weschrist, that might have been learned behavior your dog was displaying.

maybe leave him home on those nights

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:23pm PT

Slavery has nothing to do with homosexuality. 'owning' people was always wrong and we recognized that. It was a greedy endeavor.

Silly arguement.

Wes, are you saying sex with children and animals is 'a person's personal choice if both are consenting'?

This is what I mean about our society...we're dying.

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber

Arid-zona

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:24pm PT

bluering that's exactly what he's saying. Sex with children is fine so long as the kid or their parent says that it is ok. Every day I wake up and thank GOD that there are people like you standing up for what is decent and moral.

dirtbag

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 03:25pm PT

"I know you will come back with the hate and fear thing,"

No need to, you just did it yourself.

dirtbag

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 03:26pm PT

"Is having sex with children wrong? "

That's so disingenuous and such a scare tactic.

Ricky D

Trad climber

Sierra Westside

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:30pm PT

I grew up with a neighborhood kid who was homosexual...in the Deep South...in the 60's...back when none of us knew a "homo" from a hole in the ground.

Tim was raised like we all were - church on Sundays, hunting or fishing on Saturdays, running through the woods like little Indians the rest of the week.

So the lifestyle and the environment was the same for all of us...but even as young as 6 or 7, Tim was always a little "different". More delicate I suppose although no one could ever really pin down what that meant.

Our pack of friends stayed together into high school - playing sports, goofing off about girls...even Tim tried. But by puberty, when the rest of us were foaming at the mouth over anything with tits - Tim would be acting like whats the big deal?

I lost track of him for years when I moved to the west coast and didn't reconnect with the old gang until some 20 years later on a rare visit back home. During those years, Tim had "come out of the closet" with all of the pain, hatred and vitriol that being "homo" in the South would suggest.

He had been ostracized by his family, shunned by childhood friends, feared by co-workers and even beaten up more than a few times by "God-fearing Christians".

Oh yeah - he also was dying of AIDS.

But he was happy and content in who he was.

I asked him - when did he "decide" to be gay? His answer was that deciding had nothing to do with it. He talked about always feeling "out of sorts" even as a kid. How by the time puberty rolled around he felt none of the urges we did about girls - but did get all tingly over boys. Tim went on about how he would pray night after night not to be different and blamed himself for being so.

He said that finally after years of self-loathing he finally realized that for whatever reason he was different and the only decision he made in regards to being "homo" was to accept that fact that he was.

It never had anything to do with diet, breeding, lifestyles or any other external cause - it was just who he was from day one!

Like he told me - "Rick, do you REALLY think anyone in their right mind would ever CHOOSE to be this?"

Tim died not too long after we talked.

He was my friend and he had as much a right to be a happy person as anyone else.

kelly slater

climber

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:32pm PT

dirtbag, you are an angry person. Go out and look at your bumper, have your rainbow sticker put a smile on your face and be happy to be a liberal who talks alot but doesn't say too much. Slap another sticker for diversity on your car if you are not happy yet and show people what you support and press it upon others. I went out to my car and I was happy, not because I have a "I am straight" sticker on my car, but the fact that I don't have to advertise my beliefs and opinions for the public to see on a daily basis as well as a clean shiny bumper.

Jaybro

Social climber

wuz real!

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:35pm PT

But it does divert the topic!

dirtbag

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 03:38pm PT

Angry? Not really.

But I do not like bigotry being written into our constitution.

Nor do I like that this state is considering putting something into law that treats people as second class citizen --for no good reason--NONE--but because intolerant people like YOU hate them.

dirtbag

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2008 - 03:39pm PT

" I went out to my car and I was happy, not because I have a "I am straight" sticker on my car, but the fact that I don't have to advertise my beliefs and opinions for the public to see on a daily basis as well as a clean shiny bumper. "

And now, you're just babbling.

kelly slater

climber

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:46pm PT

Vote YES on PROP 8
It'll pass

S.Powers

Social climber

Jtree, now in Alaska

Oct 26, 2008 - 03:50pm PT

Kelly, are you implying that dirt has "gay pride" stickers on his car? just because he belives in equality?

If you are you are definatley an ignorant hateful bigot, and your acting immorally according to the "good book" It says somewhere in there that "thou shalt not judge" at least I think it does....

mor⋅al

–adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.
2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.
3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.
4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.
5. conforming to the rules of right conduct (opposed to immoral ): a moral man.
6. virtuous in sexual matters; chaste.
7. of, pertaining to, or acting on the mind, feelings, will, or character: moral support.
8. resting upon convincing grounds of probability; virtual: a moral certainty.

–noun
9. the moral teaching or practical lesson contained in a fable, tale, experience, etc.
10. the embodiment or type of something.
11. morals, principles or habits with respect to right or wrong conduct.

#9 is the best!