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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:33pm PT
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OK, you read it here first.
Lynne L for vice-president. Either/both parties.
If she needs to spank either or both candidates after hours, to ensure their good behaviour, I don't need to know about it.
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Tan Slacks
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:34pm PT
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"Did Buckwheat just compare Palin's 2 years as Gov. of Alaska to Barack's 2+ years as a US Senator, 7 years as state legislator, and 12 years of teaching constitutional law?"
I don't think that's a very fair comparison. You left out that she has a BA in Journalism! At least she finished college before having 5 kids and becoming the republicans VP nomination. Oh I forgot, she did enter some beauty pagents. Now that is a record!
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Buckwheat
Big Wall climber
No. Cal
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:36pm PT
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wes,
don't forget he was a community organizer, that should help him when Puty Putin wants to put nukes in cuba.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:39pm PT
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Lets be even more accurate:
Obama graduated from Harvard Law School, admitted without asking for racial profiling by NOT disclosing his race on the admissions form. He also was elected, by his law school peers,
to be their President of the Harvard Law Review, the single highest honor bestowed on any single student there.
Although he was offered megabucks by numerous big law firms, he chose to be a low paid community worker, and also was the appointed Constitutional Law Professor at Chicago Law School.
John McCain, on the other hand, graduated number 894 out of 900 from the Naval Academy.
Oh, so what level did McCain teach at?
Gee, I dunno, guess I'd rather have President the dumbest one.
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Omot
Trad climber
The here and now
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:40pm PT
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OK, I admire Palin for taking on the corrupt old boys of Alaska politics, and winning, and I guess some of you really like her. So maybe the Repubs aren't throwing the election?
It still boggles my mind that after the last 8 years, the Republicans are still in this thing. At least that's what the polls say. We'll see.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:45pm PT
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What fact is materially wrong Skip?
That McCain did not graduate at all, or that he was not at the
bottom of his class?
That Obama was not elected President of the Harvard Law Review, or that he did not teach Constitutional Law?
I think anyone reading this can easily get the gist of my point
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atchafalaya
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Babylon
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:47pm PT
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The single highest honor point was incorrect. I'm just sayin...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:50pm PT
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Mighty Hiker, how did I miss your post about debate at FL and Conquistadors ROTFLOL hysterical !
It would be a different DC if I was there. First I would send everyone home to get a real job. The poli's would only be allowed in the capital during June, July and August...hottest months would motivate to finish work quickly.
My final pine 2x4.....For every law they make they have to unmake 5. :))))) Lynners
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Aug 29, 2008 - 06:52pm PT
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Came across this one, too funny not to share
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coward
Trad climber
Boulder, Wyoming
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Aug 29, 2008 - 07:16pm PT
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atchafalaya,
I was under the impression that making Law Review in law schools was an extremely coveted honor. Let alone being selected as the President of that body. And let's not forget that Harvard Law School is one of the finest law schools in the country.
Am I wrong?
I know, I know, it's not the University of Idaho, but still...
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 29, 2008 - 07:31pm PT
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Skip, please, make no mistake about my intention, I am a life long left wing very liberal democrat, and damn proud of it,
so yes, I am prejudiced left, you got that right.
And I believe it is fair to say, from your writings, that you are, vote, republican. Ok, so what, we disagree on just about everything.
You seem to make a big deal of the fact that Obama did not find the time to publish some scholarly work while he was teaching law. So what? Are you saying he was required to do so by the college and did not? Or are you saying that all the other law professors in the nation that also do not, for whatever reason, publish something, are somehow deficient?
Really, I sense that your real effort is to find something, anything, to discredit Obama's academic credentials. Why?
Presumably because you just don't like him as a candidate. Of course you would not, that is your agenda here, and your right.
In the interest of being fair and balanced and equal time, why don't you now discuss the academic background and published works of your candidate McCain? Clearly, you do not feel that measured intelligence should be a consideration for President.
If so, one only has to consider the profound impact that the lack of intelligence of "W" the "Decider" has had the past eight years.
Skip, bottom line, all this talk is just entertainment!
Have a great weekend.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Aug 29, 2008 - 07:49pm PT
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Coward, imo, not that impressive. Its mostly a resume builder, and something big firms look for and use to justify higher hourly fees for new attorneys.
The best attorneys I know did not even try out for law review, and were actually handling cases for clients during law school. They did not want to waste time writing an article that 99.99% of attorneys will never read. The .01% that did probably just skimmed it and went back to reading cases.
However, generally, it is a good sign that the person's legal analysis and writing skills are very good.
I would be more interested in hearing where Obama ranked in his graduating class.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Aug 29, 2008 - 07:54pm PT
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nb3000
Social climber
Oakland, CA.
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:00pm PT
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Make sure they get your good side fattrad ...
"fattrad to the make up room ..."
just kidding. break a leg. I mean it.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:02pm PT
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On second thought, if she agrees to supply Doug (nature) with fish for the FaceLift SushiFest, she gets my vote.
I can be bought, but I'm not cheap. :-)
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rockermike
Mountain climber
Berkeley
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:03pm PT
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(double posted since there are two threads on this subject)
hot, I agree; not that that matters; also articulate, at least compared to W.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1082481/Sarah-Palin-in-Vogue
but, after reflection I'm predicting this pick will backfire on McCain. Two wrongs don't make a right. Too old and too inexperienced. After all (as pointed out up-thread) two years ago she was a city council member for a back woods village in Alaska. Now, (if elected) there is a 50% chance (when Micky keels over)she'll be the man with her finger on the button and staring down Putin, Amhademajad, and Hu Jintao. Not a good match in my opinion. Fishing is cool and all (actually not for us vegies - but that's another story) but really, is this lady ready to run the world. Get real.
I know, some say Obama too is too inexperienced. But hell, at least he's in the Senate, and he was President of Harvard Law Review. One of the most prestigious positions possible for someone in the legal field. BA in communications from University of Idaho. Ever heard of it. This is the world stage we're talking about - and it requires world class players....
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Jeremy Handren
climber
NV
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:09pm PT
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Actually Rockermike, it seems that Obama's education and legal smarts are not no much of a big deal. I red it in supertopo.
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coward
Trad climber
Boulder, Wyoming
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:12pm PT
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atchafalaya,
Hmm, I can't say I'm convinced by your statement that the best lawyers "you know" didn't make Law Review by choice. It's a feather in anyone's cap, and, as you noted, a resume builder. Why wouldn't you try to look as good as possible?
The point is that Obama has impeccable academic credentials, ample leadership experience (for which he is not given credit by his detractors), and is largely self-made.
You can't say the same thing for McCain. Everything he ever got was handed to him on a silver platter. Daddy got him through the Navy. He was at the bottom of his class. A sh**ty pilot who wrecked, what, five planes? He got to be what he is today because of his connections, period. Nothing to make the guy stand out, other than having been tortured for a few years in Vietnam, which is truly a shame.
And now, neither party knows what he represents, because he has changed so much recently. He was a maverick when it was convenient for him. But he sold out shamefully to the hard right. His principles were completely left by the wayside.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:21pm PT
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These two VP threads are making me dizzy, more so now that I'm reading the same posts on both threads.
Help, I'm experiencing thread disorientation... !
Psst....
(Say, when are you guys gonna break it to fattrad that he's not the Emperor......?)
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 29, 2008 - 08:25pm PT
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Skip, thank you for your response.
You state that "My point on publishing is that it is a requirement to publish in order to be a professor (especially at Chicago) and indeed many instructors do as well".
I beg to disagree: In your effort to discredit Obama's teaching Constitutional Law, you are making the broad statement that it is a requirement to publish to be a professor. This is categorically untrue as each school offers different teaching contracts to different attending or visitng professors. I personally know this to be true from my own graduate work.
There may or may not be, the requirement to publish.
Clearly you mean to point out that because Obama did not publish while teaching, that we should look upon this as a negative because he did not do what he was "required" to do, publish, therefore he was negligent in his duties.
However, I am going to challenge your assumption here that his contract had that publishing requirement. I do not believe that you are personally privy to that private information. Please state for the record here from what source you have this informaton, or admit that you do not and that you are simply assuming his contract called for publishing. This is very important, because your entire supposition that he was somehow remiss of his professorial duties depends upon your ability to substantiate the proof of your inside contract information.
Thank you for taking the time to back up your premise.
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