my annual post about non-climbing threads

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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber

San Francisco, Ca

Mar 19, 2009 - 11:33pm PT

Winter coupled with an emotional election, change in ruling party and economic problems probably explains a lot of it. Some off topic stuff is fun, fills gaps and is often at least "climber lifestyle" related. I am sometimes amazed at the breadth of knowledge here. I'd say major political/current events deserve a spot. That said, there are some current thread starters, just passing poo being the worst, that never have any thing to say about climbing, or anything constructive to say at all, that drag down the site.

I'm relatively new, but quality seems to ebb and flow. I was getting tired of the site because of the political stuff in November and then wham- those amazing fist ascent of the totem pole pictures came up.

Ricky D

Trad climber

Sierra Westside

Mar 19, 2009 - 11:46pm PT

Dammit Ed - don't you go and pussy out on us here - your input and photos are too important to leave us with nothing but political and religious circle jerks.

BrassNuts

Trad climber

Boulder Colorado

Mar 20, 2009 - 12:12am PT

Rule #1: Don't engage the "byte wasters".

Rule #2: See rule #1.

Long live Trip Reports!!!

Daphne

Trad climber

Mill Valley, CA

Mar 20, 2009 - 12:53am PT

The tacostand does not suffer Noobs gladly. More lurkers would post on climbing threads if it weren't for this, imho. Not that I am saying things should change, but merely contributing a reason for why political and non-climbing threads proliferate. You don't have to have 20 years of climbing experience to debate the policies of the current administration.

dirtineye

Trad climber

the south

Mar 20, 2009 - 01:16am PT

well I really hate trip reports, can't understand why anyone woudl write one or waste time reading one. Climbing is about climbing, and to me, that means, I go climbing, I like it, and I don't see any point in a trip report unless I am promoting an area, which is still a bit lame.

I mean, how many trip reports can you really stand?

How many shoe threads? How many what's the best rope threads?

Yes as someone said, losing woody brings things into focus a bit.

I didn't know woody, but I st-know a few of his good pals, and I can only imagine how they feel.

IT sucks htat posts about woody's accident, which are actually realavant and important and might help someone in the future, and bumpe off the top buy incessant mindless posts of any sort.

Again, the problem is too much volume and no way to sort topics by relevance. again, 6 years ago, this was not hte case, but times have changes, and st needs to adapt or continue to frustrate a lot of the users.

As for who buys a guide book or uses one, HEll I bought that alaska book, for one to support chris nad the site, for another cause I'll never make it there and I enjoyed the pictures, and three, cause I fewlt a little obligation to pay at least somethign for the service of st. yes it is a service, and despite the ads, yo uare using it for free if you have not bought anything from the site. If you like being a free loader, fine, just realize that that is the case. remember also that ST has value, and all that that entails.

haha thanks HK, but still our love can never be, old chum.

Lois does havea point. but here's an additional point that seems a good corellary to the idea that people who are intersted in a climbing thrad shoud start one, and people who clainm to like those threads shoud post to em.

point tow is, maybe they are, but because of the volume of crap posts, plus the MORE voluminous replies that certain onher threads get for good or ill, the climbing posts are still overshadoewd and fall from the top page.

sort of like when rethuglicans deregualted teh once highly regulated speucation on futures market and the price of oil-- it turns out that teh entities that actually USE oil and MAKE thins gs from it liek gas, jet fuel, plastics, heating oil dtc, were comprising just 5% of the futures market, while paper pushers only out to make a buck comprised the other 95%.

Now, just which group do yoou think controlled the market?

same thing on st. Therefore I call for MORE REGULATION of threads, LOL. before everything goes to hell. hehe.

How's that for a segue?

Do I win a prize???? Do I??? Do I?

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Mar 20, 2009 - 01:23am PT

Lois, you are too much...pro in a nice way BUT yo always get peeps off topic on a thread. I almost said I never, hardly ever cry, ever. But this is a Chris Mac MY Annual Post About Non-Climbing Threads"......so ....climb on. Lynne

tom woods

Gym climber

Bishop, CA

Mar 20, 2009 - 01:37am PT

Ed- you and I were among the few scouts to take the scout argument to the end. It is off topic, but central to the wilderness and climbing heart of the sport.

Rox- You know you are an as#@&%e on some things, but I got your back.

Woody, was the same way. He'd shake it up to make a few points.

xtrmecat

Trad climber

Kalispell, Montanagonia

Mar 20, 2009 - 01:34pm PT

Puttin it back up front for all to see. Maybe someday they will get it?
Bob

Domingo

Trad climber

El Portal, CA

Apr 16, 2009 - 03:57pm PT

They'll never get it. *shrug*

Trad

Trad climber

northern CA

Feb 12, 2010 - 01:52am PT

IMHO the original post has aged well.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=501284&tn=0

Kind of funny, though, because despite the title ("annual") did he ever really post this more than once?

Fritz

Trad climber

Hagerman, ID

Feb 12, 2010 - 10:10am PT

Since all the "rant n rave" threads drove this off the front page during the night.......

bump

kev

climber

A pile of dirt.

Feb 12, 2010 - 11:53am PT

Base wrote: "Does anyone think that climbers only talk about climbing"

dude, have you ever been camping in the valley?

MH2

climber

Feb 12, 2010 - 03:55pm PT

I would just like to be able to toggle between 2 ways of listing threads:

1. The way it is now, with the most recently posted-to thread moving to the top.

2. Same deal but now only threads I have previously read.

It shouldn't be hard to implement since threads I have read are already highlighted, so they are being tracked by the software. Just please allow me to view those threads only if I want to.

Or is it already possible to do that?

It might be nice to de-list a thread I view and don't want to see more of, also.

And a third list view of threads I posted to?

luggi

Trad climber

from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car

Feb 12, 2010 - 06:24pm PT

Kev I agree..in the valley it is world politics...someone is always asking if you have a current paper or if you have heard an update about something.

froodish

Social climber

Portland, Oregon

Feb 12, 2010 - 07:52pm PT

@MH2

That's your browser tracking which links you have visited, has nothing to do with the forum software. Doing what you propose is a non-trivial addition (not to mention a ton of data to track.)

Captain...or Skully

Social climber

شقوق واس

Feb 12, 2010 - 08:16pm PT

You don't have to change anything if you JUST DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
Easy money. Just Don't.

Jan

Mountain climber

Okinawa, Japan

Feb 12, 2010 - 10:34pm PT

This deserves to be at the top again.

MH2

climber

Feb 14, 2010 - 12:29am PT

That's your browser tracking which links you have visited, has nothing to do with the forum software. Doing what you propose is a non-trivial addition (not to mention a ton of data to track.)

If only there were a machine designed to keep track of lots of data.

In the meantime, perhaps the solution is near at hand. If ST keeps track of all posts to threads and my browser keeps track of which threads I've viewed maybe we can work out a deal.

However, it sounds as though keeping track of new posts to only those threads I have previously posted to may require a third possibility which we haven't even considered yet.