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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2007 - 10:14pm PT
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Wes...nice shot of me...did you steal it off of Gill's web site??
Little history lesson for you...that the problem that Gill rip his bicep on.
Best for a little wanna be like you to stay away from.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2007 - 10:57pm PT
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Caught wrote:The very title of this thread is pretty pompous.
Why???
What pompous is you thinking that most of the names in the OP are not part of climbing history.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:00pm PT
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glad you saw that Bob, it bugged me too - I mean why even say sucha thing? what's the point? communication is a tool: why not use it constructively?
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:12pm PT
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This is exactly why I was wondering about controlling our own threads, i.e. being able to keep a thread somewhat alive, by having the power to delete the green vomit or spray the ants who come in with their little minds, even to ban (on our own threads) those who clearly only mean to bring a bad spirit or other harm.
As for no one being worthy of unmixed praise, that could well be true. That's why I described Jello as human and real, full of contradiction and flaws. That's why I've opened my heart to some of my own stupidities through the years. But there is a differnce between keeping the balance, that delicate, keen perspective, as opposed to simply throwing out ugly shots designed to give their author, above all, a sense of authority and power. The greatest people are always the most generous, in my experience.
These references to old guys. People keep telling me I'm old, and relative to something for certain I am indeed, but last night I easily defeated (in sparring) two very strong black belts half my age. Old can sometimes translate as experience. Through the years I've known all the best young stars of climbing. To a man, they become better people with time.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:16pm PT
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Oli did you read my post on your webmaster thread?
I recently talked to Big Wall Pete (Takeda) a really nice guy with TONS of experience, stories, information - a great sense of respect for tradition and many photos to boot - when the subject of the ST came up he just smiled, said "I've posted but the place is volatile".
so we don't get Pete here (or guys like him) because of green ant vomit and that is a shame.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2007 - 11:29pm PT
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Raydog...Shame about Pete...he has a lot to offer. Wes more than likely cut his teeths over at boldering.com... one of the most vile climbing sites on the web.
Home of LOX...
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:31pm PT
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Pat, I need to get you one of these shirts!
Age is like taste, or rather sense of style. It never stays the same, it only gains perspective. A good friend of mine is a black belt in Okinawan Goju ryu. It's inspiring to know that he picked up a trade well after his "prime" was over, and through years and years of training, has a whole new persona. To know that, at 55 years old, you can change your whole personality and lifestyle, and be contemporary and strong in whatever it is, seems like something new. People aren't used to it, but like the saying goes now, 50 is the new 40.
I think I might be young enough that, when i get there, 100 will be the new 70! I could use another 50 years of climbing.
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atchafalaya
climber
California
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:40pm PT
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Oli, Raydog, once every month or two, someone posts a thread asking for some level of moderation on the forum.
On one of the threads asking for moderation, and only climbing content, Dingus stated (paraphrasing) "If you dont like the threads, then post something that doesn't suck, the forum is only as good as whats being posted". Or something like that.
Keep posting the great stories/photos. This thread had some legs earlier. Now its got the palsy. It only takes one decent post to revive it.
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:48pm PT
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" It only takes one decent post to revive it. "
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2007 - 11:56pm PT
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GDavis...Nice... Jim H. at the Penny Ante Boulder.
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nick d
Trad climber
nm
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Jul 17, 2007 - 11:59pm PT
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Fortunately for me, even during the 80s I realized the only legitimate activities for lycra were swimming, cycling, and track and field. But I have to admit to having competed in every piece shown. I even have a matching jersey for the tiger stripe pair!
I also succumbed to Bill Forrest's deadly grip in the 70s
That should make everyone else feel a little better about their judgement, or lack there of!
Michael
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 18, 2007 - 12:04am PT
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My judgment of those angle things above.
I'd immediately chuck em into the abyss ......
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 18, 2007 - 12:14am PT
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Is it safe?
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 18, 2007 - 12:17am PT
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As long as you're wearing your brain bucket.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2007 - 12:18am PT
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Ron...the lycra or the titons??
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 18, 2007 - 12:22am PT
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Has it stopped pissing out?
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Jul 18, 2007 - 02:23am PT
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Hey Oli, and whoever else wants to know:
this is roywonder @ 55 yrs old
CHEERS
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 18, 2007 - 02:41am PT
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I will be 61 September 3
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 18, 2007 - 12:44pm PT
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"Living history?" This has now become more like "Night of the living dead."
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Jul 18, 2007 - 01:04pm PT
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Go Roy!!!
Back to the off-topic... I have always wondered* what it is about a person's personality that would drive them to create situations where others berated them. PinkTriCam was big on that over at rc.com for a while. Constantly, and with obvious intent, making threads or posts that were sure to bring on a barrage of disparaging remarks. It's clear that these sorts get some sense of sadistic enjoyment out of the thing. Like a displaced martyr or something.
It's not limited to the internet of course, but the behavior sure does come to the foreground rather frequently in this arena.
Anyone out there with some psychology background who can offer an idea on what it's all about?
*Well, at least since I started playing in onlinre forums, I have wondered this....
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