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Rick A
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Boulder, Colorado
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Mar 16, 2007 - 11:00pm PT
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Johnny,
I think that was on a Tuolumne project we never completed.
Rick
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TwistedCrank
climber
Hell
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Mar 16, 2007 - 11:13pm PT
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Ah yes, the long gone days of the three finger dip. I musta looked like a feckin idiot out there in the real world with a big ole fat lip and brown ooze dripping out the corner of my mouth, always looking around for corner to spit into. Fine memories these. Not.
After 15 years off the white circle on my jeans the worst thing I have to do is explain to my dentist every six months why my gums are so receded . Blech.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Mar 17, 2007 - 11:11am PT
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Hey Rick, that is a great picture of John. Certainly takes me right back.
Stick with it John. A psychologist friend of mind--a long time ago--said that anyone who can remember the moment they quit (any vice) is just a 'dry' addict. Insightful, I think.
Best, Roger
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Mar 18, 2007 - 11:34am PT
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...the "shower chew"?????
I'm sorry, Hankster. But.....EWWWW!!!!
I am so, so, SO very grateful for having never gotten sucked into Nicotine's grip. Believe me, it was simply a matter of dumb luck, and if I hadn't looked up so to my brother when he said "Don't Smoke" I have no doubt I'd have fallen into the abyss.
I feel for you guys, and KEEP ON QUITTING!!!! You're all Gods of Supertopo(since the god/goddess thing seems to be the current theme) today because of it!
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L
climber
Sesame Street
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Mar 18, 2007 - 01:43pm PT
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Largo--How goes the battle?
Hope you're out on your muni on this fine gray LA day and not stuck at the computer like some of us!
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Roger Brown
climber
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Mar 18, 2007 - 02:00pm PT
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John,
In 1990 I headed south on the John Muir Trail with a full pack of Camel Filters and a pint of Yukon Jack. I came out 31 days later alcohol and tobacco free. No tobacco since and no urge to start back. I went back to alcohol after 6 months cause I only quit that to see if I could :-) Probably quiting both at once was harder but how would I know. Just being a rookie backpacker with 80+ pounds of mostly the wrong stuff, not having tobacco or alcohol was the least of my problems. That trip left me with a bunch of great "Campfire Stories"..Hang in there John, it gets a little easier after awhile,
Roger Brown
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabon movin on
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Mar 19, 2007 - 04:04pm PT
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Largo and Hank-
Hope u guys are still in it. I also quit chewing the morning of 3/12 cold turkey. Even though I've had a romantic relationship with nicotine since I was 12, Palmalls, Camels straight, reds, skoal to cope to the bear back to cope back to bear...etc...I dropped it all a week ago using Orbits and baby carrots. The carrots help cause you can figit around with your fingers then chew it up and leave in the lip. Hey, what ever works. Less shaky today.
BTW, I completly understand the summit, post-sex, and especially shower chew.
KEEP POSTING NASTY CANCEROUS PICS>>>> THEY HELP!
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Mar 19, 2007 - 04:13pm PT
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YAY Sparky! Look how many of you guys are "calling it quits!"
Impressive!
And I think that carrot idea is probably a pretty good suggestion. I'm going to rememebr that one for people I run into who are quitting.
p.s. My best friend, Rita, died from Lung Cancer 3 years ago. She'd smoked heavily, but quit about 10 years before she was diagnosed. She didn't find out, as is often the case with Lung Cancer, until it was too late, even though she had excellent health insurance, and had been seeing a doctor about symptoms she was having(a cough that wouldn't go away, tiring easily with excercise, and the biggie - a feeling of weight on her chest). It didn't show up on x-rays, and if she hadn't pushed the doctor, they wouldn't have done the CAT which found "a dark spot" that was inconclusive, and led to the PET, which.... Well, she got her diagnosis. Inoperable, with 2 years to live.
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SuperSpud
Trad climber
Cayucos, CA
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Mar 19, 2007 - 07:28pm PT
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"I appreciate that many people have much heavier burdens than my silly nocotine addiction but it really felt pretty hard today - not staying off the snuff (easy), but just being with myself without some numbing agent. "
My path through this life has led me to complete (successfully) several different substance abuse programs, during which I met a fair number of heroin addicts. To a person, each said that kicking heroin was easier than kicking nicotine.
Sounds like a pretty heavy burden to me, Largo.
Jeff Rininger
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CathC
Social climber
Wyoming
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Mar 19, 2007 - 07:29pm PT
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hang in there Largo, my 2 girl friends just quit the chew too.. so far so good for them.. they got tired of me ragging on them and of course their kids too... but I don't know about giving up coffee..
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2007 - 01:39am PT
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Just a quick update: The biggest epic of my life, quitting the nicotine. I'm not shocked that the success rate on qutting is so low. I should never have doubted that I could artificially manipulate my nervous systemt for 30 years (bombing it with nic) and not suffer a kind of rebound effect once I quit. I think it really takes a long time for your body to readjust to not being spun out by a stimulant like the vile and robust nic. Fun while it lasted.
JL
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John Moosie
climber
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Mar 23, 2007 - 01:45am PT
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Hey Largo,
I am glad to hear that you are still at it. Yep, nicotine is definitely a twisty drug. I know plenty of people that have said it was one of the hardest things to quit. And these are people who had some serious drug and alcohol habits.
We are all rooting for you !!!
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 23, 2007 - 01:48am PT
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yeah, it'll take time Largo - like a year or so...
Hey - post a recent pic dog - check it out.
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TopRopeGun
Trad climber
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Mar 23, 2007 - 10:53am PT
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Yo Largo!
Stick with it man! I used to dip furiously all summer as a Wildland firefighter...about the only vice you CAN have and still do your job on the line....nothing better than a fresh tin, and 14 hours behind the Stihl 046! It's a hard one to shake, but you can do it!! Best thing I ever gave up...although I had some forcible help...lil' drunk one night, grabbed a friends spitter on accident (looked just like the beer I was drinking) and took a deep pull.....once the heaving stopped...I was mentally done and DONE!
Your body, mouth, breath, and woman will thank you! It's damn hard...but a good battle...KEEP AT IT!
Good luck!
m
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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Mar 23, 2007 - 11:34am PT
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Hi Largo, hankster, and the other 'quitters':
Reading these posts of support may not quell the urges.
But we're rooting for you guys! When things get sketchy remember that this is a good fight.
Yours in addiction,
Wild Bill
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabon movin on
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Mar 23, 2007 - 01:45pm PT
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Still clean but had a scare yesterday. Going through some gear I found a old tin of cope squirreled away. Drove me nuts (pun intended). The freakin sawdust looked doable.....
Nicotine is BAD.
Bad
Bad
Bad
Bad
Bad
sh!t
Tossed it and have been patting myself on the back all day today.
Keep up the fight!
-Jeff
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Mar 23, 2007 - 02:14pm PT
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Keep at it guys. It's really inspiring to read the reality of this sort of stuff.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 23, 2007 - 06:25pm PT
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embrace the gangsters of your psychic under world - make friends with them.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 23, 2007 - 06:28pm PT
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Psssst hey man? Anyone want one?
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Mar 23, 2007 - 06:48pm PT
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"but when I want it, I want it sooooo godamn bad...."
tell me...then i come back to here and read more of this thread, and it helps...a LOT actually...
-tom
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