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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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May 17, 2019 - 06:53am PT
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You haven't got idea one who mynameismud really is No, I don’t, but after a few decades in high tech I get a pretty good idea after the first sentence - just like most might recognize hyperbole in conversation.
However it was also kind of mean so I deleted it.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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May 17, 2019 - 10:38am PT
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I just created a closed SuperTopo Campfire on Facebook for the purpose of keeping connection going, not to replace SuperTopo. That's not possible. It's just to keep us connected and to post dates etc. for events.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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May 17, 2019 - 08:37pm PT
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Can't find it. Two people have started supertopo groups but I don't see yours.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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May 17, 2019 - 10:09pm PT
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Ksolem, go to FB and in the upper left search field type in Super Topo Campfire. Ask to join and you will be a member. Cheers!
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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May 19, 2019 - 07:06pm PT
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For some reason they deleted my innocuous post earlier in the thread for what I can only assume was too extreme of an amount of sarcasm. It must have ruffled hangry's feathers.This place is definitely dead
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Toerag
Trad climber
Guernsey, British Channel Islands
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May 21, 2019 - 08:17am PT
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As an occasional lurker and poster, it boils down to this - Chris has obviously become aware of his liabilities running the site and the potential for legal action and the ramifications of such action. I don't know the laws in the USA, but let's say that he could lose everything if legal action came about due to something on the site. He's decided he doesn't want to take that risk. Which is fair enough. So, what is the alternative?
1) 'hard' moderation with many mods to spread the load - all posts require mod approval before publication?
2) get rid of the site to someone that is willing to take the risk.
3) restrict postings to climbing topics?
3) Archive it, possibly with deletion of contentious posts?
The question is, what are the site owners libilities and what can be done to mitigate them? What do other sites & forums do? The beauty of ST (and UKC) is the power of the 'hive mind' - there must be people on here who know the answers to the questions! I think Chris needs to reach out to the community so we can help find a way forward and retain the hugely useful and entertaining history of this place!
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Roadie
Trad climber
moab UT
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May 21, 2019 - 08:37am PT
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Thanks Chris,
Its been a lot of fun and brought me back in contact with some long lost friends and connected me with some new ones as well.
Good luck, Steve
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 21, 2019 - 07:32pm PT
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Are you saying none of this will be accessible?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 21, 2019 - 07:36pm PT
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Yes, wilbeer. Unfortunately, NOTHING from supertopo.com shows up on the Wayback Machine anymore.
And the Wayback will NO LONGER accept URLs from the Taco for archiving.
It's because of changes to the robots.txt file on the ST server. The file used to read:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
but now it blocks a wide variety of agents. :-(
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 21, 2019 - 07:37pm PT
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The question is, what are the site owners libilities and what can be done to mitigate them? What do other sites & forums do? The beauty of ST (and UKC) is the power of the 'hive mind' - there must be people on here who know the answers to the questions! I think Chris needs to reach out to the community so we can help find a way forward and retain the hugely useful and entertaining history of this place!
This is pretty easy. Spin the forum off as a non-profit corporation, which has many legal protections. However, this presupposes that Chris WANTS to do this, which it seems pretty clear, that he does not, even if the ship is turned over to a different captain. Having moderated some discussion boards in the past, I can see how it would lead to serious burn-out.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 21, 2019 - 07:41pm PT
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Man.....kunlan, I tried it you are right. Do you think Chris is going to save it in a new domain?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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May 21, 2019 - 07:52pm PT
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I was under the impression the forum will still be here and searchable. You just won't be able to make new posts.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 21, 2019 - 07:55pm PT
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Likewise mono. May have been duped,every action on the net costs.
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