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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Nov 10, 2018 - 04:12pm PT
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Neither party is "the solution" to "the problem".
The Democrats ignore rural America. The Repubs pander to it, so the Repubs get the vote of rural America. So the Senate swings Repub...
Think I'm wrong about ignoring 85% (by area) of the country? Talk to a farmer, a rancher, a coal miner, a welder.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Nov 10, 2018 - 04:49pm PT
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Or a Carpenter.
The system is stacked for yours,with the Senate and the Electoral College,but ,by all means,defend that.
A Republic.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Nov 10, 2018 - 05:15pm PT
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The system is stacked for yours,with the Senate and the Electoral College,but ,by all means,defend that.
A Republic.
Yep. We will. The Constitution as it's written, that is--subject to amendment processes outlined therein. Direct democracy is a nightmare. Funny they understood this 240 years ago--but you're still trying to grasp the concept.
Stop being such a crybaby.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 10, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
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Got to agree with Litty on this one. People tend to vote their self interest. the Constitution helps keep politicians somewhat on the right track.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Nov 10, 2018 - 05:50pm PT
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Stop being such a Russian troll.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 10, 2018 - 06:03pm PT
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Oligarchy is a much better way to go than a democracy ...Make Trump's kids more wealthy so they wont have to cheat the IRS like their bitchy old man...
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Trump
climber
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Nov 10, 2018 - 06:48pm PT
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I don't understand how or why The Wall Street Journal keeps biting the right-wing hands that own it, but I sure enjoy it when it does.
No shame in not understanding. Recognizing ourselves not understanding is an opportunity to identity our misunderstandings, and correct them, if that’s what we honestly want to do. And if it’s not, maybe we could recognize that about ourselves.
Sounds like this isn’t the first time that you’ve noticed a conservative publication not mindlessly toeing the right-wing line in service to their right-wing financiers? What do you think our misunderstanding is that continues to prevent us from understanding this even after seeing it before? Why is this still surprising us?
Maybe they’re just honest journalists with integrity trying to report the truth? Heck, I even believe that’s kind of true about the left-wing press with its left-wing financiers!
Just because Trump likes to engage in anti-press and anti-others rhetoric doesn’t mean that we have to believe it too.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 10, 2018 - 07:25pm PT
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This midterm election ain’t over yet....
Sinema is pulling ahead in Arizona....
In Florida, Nelson and Scott are damn close and every vote is under a microscope...
And Gillum has rescinded his concession....
Oh, the drama!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 10, 2018 - 07:31pm PT
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Where are those extra democrat votes coming from...? Are the caravan people voting already...Fraud...
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Nov 10, 2018 - 07:32pm PT
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Dave:
Well, the US isn't a democracy. … The US is a Republic.
Can somebody explain the origin of the statement that "Republic is not a democracy"?
It looks like this flawed concept is taught in US schools. Right?
It's obvious that democracy is broader term than republic.
Republic is always a democracy.
Google can help to find a lot of sites discussing this issue. e.g. http://www.yourdictionary.com/democracy:
"The definition of a democracy is a form of government in which the people rule, either directly or through elected representatives. An example of democracy is the type of government in the United States."
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 10, 2018 - 07:41pm PT
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Democrats Aren't Losing Faith in Our Constitutional System. They Just Don't Like It
It's because they see the system as a way to achieve partisan goals, not as a set of politically neutral idealistic values.
It's not a civics problem, either. One hopes that such liberal activists as NBC News' Ken Dilanian, who wonders "how much longer the American majority will tolerate being pushed around by a rural minority," understand sixth-grade civics. New York Times columnist Paul Krugman surely knows that the Constitution doesn't give "disproportionate weight" to smaller states. It intentionally gives all states the same weight in the Senate. Krugman only finds this idea "disproportionate" because it protects millions of Americans from the centralized coercive state that he envisions for them. The disproportionality he sees merely reflects his own concerns. It has nothing to do with the system.
https://www.creators.com/read/david-harsanyi/11/18/democrats-arent-losing-faith-in-our-constitutional-system-they-just-dont-like-it
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Nov 10, 2018 - 08:07pm PT
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T Hocking, thank you for clarifying American logic for me.
Does it mean that this confusion started a couple of centuries ago by commentators on the American Constitution?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Nov 10, 2018 - 10:52pm PT
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It's pretty simple guys, it's one person one vote. Every vote is equal but some votes are more equal than others. Like if you live in Wyoming as opposed to California.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Nov 11, 2018 - 04:08am PT
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Good to see the Right here defend the Constitution.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 11, 2018 - 05:10am PT
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Not defend.
Explain.
We should all do our part to reduce ignorance.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Nov 11, 2018 - 05:52am PT
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“Not defend”.
Way to stay true to form,discredit the messenger,not the message.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 11, 2018 - 06:59am PT
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Democrats Aren't Losing Faith in Our Constitutional System. They Just Don't Like It Add to Ed's repertoire, the cheap blanket statement that floats on a sliver of substance followed by the declaration of widespread malfeasance by way of the sliver example (mimicked technique by Fox News).
I only see one lawmaker currently assaulting our Constitution! Your congressional Republicans are doing the blocking and tackling without fear of backlash from their constituency. So really, it's you who threaten our Constitution- there's a blanket statement supported by data and fact.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 11, 2018 - 07:05am PT
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what else would you expect from an ignorant racist?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Nov 11, 2018 - 07:23am PT
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Make an unpopular (but accurate) statement....
and the mean girls show up.
Too funny!
Thanks for the laugh.
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