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Gym climber
the range
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Dec 31, 2017 - 04:43pm PT
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all the gadges roond here worrying about
running out of their shite that holds them up.
do this circus a right favor if the botum
fell oot.
prosperous americans are usually ugly c#&%s
aboot thier business and obstinate
as all f*#k when it comes to helpin oothers
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Dec 31, 2017 - 04:49pm PT
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^^^^^^. Xoxoxoxo
Susan
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Dec 31, 2017 - 09:34pm PT
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Malemute.
If the world pulls out of the petrodollar agreement, the US will collapse
Yes. Therefore the reaction on Iraq. But China/Russia is another matter. USA can make war on a small country to save the petrodollar, but China and Russia together is something completely different. I wrote a lot about this ten years ago and more, but back then the euro was the threat to the petrodollar. China was on the fringe, but not a credible threat yet, though even then it was considered a future possibility. We're there now.
If it will be petroyuan, which seems more and more likely now, it will change everything. The shift of power, the economical turnaround to the east will have rather big effects. Hard to predict how that will affect the euro, but it will be devastating on the dollar.
The really big threat will be if the world decides to pull the rug out beneath your feet, deciding that you have to pay your debts. Honestly, even though you have lived way beyond your means on the expence of other countries who has lent you the money, (even Sweden though we're tiny compared to the USA), I hope that won't happen. Because if it does, I fear that USA will break up as a country. California will survive on its own, without the ballast of the rest, which will have hard times ahead. And Trump being president isn't exactly helping. The views of him from abroad makes the critics at home seem as a mild breeze.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Dec 31, 2017 - 10:44pm PT
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Yes, I know. :-)
I should not have used the word "you" in the last paragraph, that was sloppy. I meant the Unitedstatians.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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These days less attention can be a good thing
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Sweden sounds like a great place now--but how can they ever be forgiven for what they did to us?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Chainsaw, your "wall of text" post seemed to me a cut and paste job, so you were citing someone else.
Should you be held responsible for what it says? I think you should.
How trustworthy is what you posted, and what does that say about the trustworthiness of ANYTHING that you post? Remember that we only have your posts by which to judge you.
You said: El Dorado County Supervisors pay themselves over $500,000/year.
Sadly, for you, this is easily check-able:
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Supervisor%20-%20Board%20of%20Supervisors
You better start fact-checking your "quotes", and you should make it clear that you are citing someone else's words when you do.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Ken M. Your figures are correct. I was wrong to say $500,000. I misquoted the Sacramento Bee article about the indictment of the supervisors chair in a scam where he collected tax dollars from CalFire to clear his own property. They stated that just prior to the election in 2004 or 2005 they lowered their salaries from $250,000 to $150,000. Then after the election they voted to raise them back to $250,000 about three weeks after the election. My big beef with them was that they spent millions of taxdollars building roads and infrastructure to provide access to landlocked properties in their own porfolios. Their profit from that deal was astronomical and led to ia grand jury investigation of three supes. The crux was that the money they spent led to a major county budget shortfall. They reacted to that by adding a $75,000 per parcel infrastructure development fee that drove many potential home builders out of their land. My girlfriend at the time was restoring an old cabin with the 25k a year she made doing carpentry. After she finished investing all her time and money in that cabin she lost it because she couldnt afford the cost of the certificate of occupancy. Sorry I misquoted. Im still angry and emotional about that. I thank you for updating the figures. Things have apparently changed since then. Look further back and you will see the salary bait and switch election, and the federal charges which were dropped.... Supervising the county continues to be about personal entrepreneurial activity, just like Calavaras....
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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California will survive on its own, without the ballast of the rest, which will have hard times ahead.
ROFL
Yeah, I wish it would secede right away and "shed the ballast" of the rest of us. LOL
But please do it SOON, so that your trillion in debt, unfunded liabilities, pensions, and failed liberal policies won't be ballast on the rest of us. PLEASE have your own upcoming "hard times" all by yourselves.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Good enough.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Yeah, I wish it would secede right away and "shed the ballast" of the rest of us. LOL
But please do it SOON, so that your trillion in debt, unfunded liabilities, pensions, and failed liberal policies won't be ballast on the rest of us. PLEASE have your own upcoming "hard times" all by yourselves.
x2! And take their 55 electoral votes with them. We'll keep the nukes--since they probably don't want them anyway--and Siskiyou, Shasta, Lassen counties.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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But please do it SOON, so that your trillion in debt, unfunded liabilities, pensions, and failed liberal policies won't be ballast on the rest of us. PLEASE have your own upcoming "hard times" all by yourselves.
Oh, and you think that your pensions are all funded? Why are the Midwestern states labeled as "hardscrabble", and California "Paradise"? Why are the midwesterners hooked on heroin, and the westerners hooked on climbing?
California has a longstanding debt of about $1.3T, but this is mainly in the form of bonds and contractual debt, with clear plans of payoff.
Of course, since we'll own all the food, and all the innovation, with a few bumps in prices, we'll have out debt paid off by you.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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^^^^^ What Dingus said! These liberal hell-holes are intolerable. So, yeah, someone kill me, too. Or I might have to suffer tomorrow what I barely lived through today...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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^^^^^ That could also be the coast of N Korea.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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California has a longstanding debt of about $1.3T, but this is mainly in the form of bonds and contractual debt, with clear plans of payoff.
Of course, since we'll own all the food, and all the innovation, with a few bumps in prices, we'll have out debt paid off by you.
Let's see, CA produces 11% of America's food (by revenue, not calories or tonnage) and has roughly 11% of the country's population. Sounds like a fair deal so far. But let's not forget poor old Cali is entering menopause--hot flashes in December! Not sure how much longer she'll continue to bear fruit.
In any event, there's little doubt that the good people of the New Republic, left to their own group-think, would collectivize farms in short order--and so it goes. At the very least, they'd mandate organic, abolish nitrogen-based fertilizers, and go back to crop rotation. Sounds like hungry time!
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Bad news, X. Your bear's AK-47 was confiscated and melted down shortly after independence. And 7.62x39 ammo was banned. And your army is mostly out surfin' and/or smokin da ganga. Mostly.
BTW, your tech sector didn't like the new 99% corporate tax rate. They all relocated to South Carolina and Texas. Bummer.
Don't worry though, Kamala's got your back.
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chipper_shredder
Social climber
outinthecuts
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2018 - 01:14am PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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I'm so ashamed, please kill me.
Yeah, Dingus, California is a living Hell, no doubt, but somebody has to make that sacrifice.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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If only I was living in Alabamy rather than this failed state of California, how much better life would be.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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I'm with YA Lituya...Selling my Cali. condo and movin to Keentucky where Mitch gives a bitch about the workin stiffs...
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