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dirtbag
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Nov 21, 2017 - 02:27pm PT
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ov 21, 2017 - 02:17pm PT
Take the communist state of CA out of the equation and 1 million MORE
Mathematical masturbation.
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Gene
climber
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Nov 21, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
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To not be seen as hypocrites, to gain the higher ground, and just because it’s right, Franken must resign. You can be pretty damn sure Gov. Dayton will appoint a liberal Democrat to Franken’s seat.
As long as Franken is in the Senate, there will be no accountability – or progress – on the issue of sexual assault and harassment. It’s either wrong for everybody or nobody.
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John M
climber
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Nov 21, 2017 - 02:31pm PT
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2.1 million Democrats voted for Trump.
9.4 million Independents(who usually vote Democratic) voted for Trump.
that doesn't refute that the majority of people who voted for donald trump are republicans.
Lets everybody clean house.
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John M
climber
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Nov 21, 2017 - 02:41pm PT
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So then you agree that Trump should go.. since there have been multiple accusers of him. thats the standard you set for Bill.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 21, 2017 - 03:25pm PT
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Is there a man on this forum who HASN'T heard of a female highschool classmate of theirs getting gang-banged at a party BITD? HASN'T seen a buddy being overly aggressive to some woman at a bar or club, who they could tell had provided signals she was not interested in his advances and watch him ignore and continue, or being to verbally abuse the woman? HASN'T known at least one guy who has had his wife or girlfriend take out a restraining order against him?
To the first one, nope.
To the second? Yes, but no buddy of mine.
To the third? My experience with restraining orders went the other way.
Regarding Al, That picture of the "mock fondle" is serving him well. It distracts most people from the really egregious act, the unexpected and unwanted French kiss. What did he think was going to happen? That she'd return the favor? He's lucky she didn't knee him in the balls.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Nov 21, 2017 - 03:46pm PT
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The word OK gives explicit consent.
"He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth. I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time."
It doesn't sound like she was in fear of losing her job.
Nor does she act like it in other videos such as one with Robin Williams at another USO show, where she gropes him, and he does not look happy about it.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Nov 21, 2017 - 04:23pm PT
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Fact is, the guy in that photo is a creep. Most of us males have impulses to do that kind of thing, but only a creep does it. Females write the rules of engagement. Break them if you will, and laugh at the whole thing, but all you're setting yourself up for is a porn addiction since a creep couldn't get laid with a gold brick. And it's probably hard to love a creep
I have two daughters and if I saw some crank doing what Franken did in that pic I'd pitch him off the plane. Or try to. Not to say I'm any better than Frankin, but every dude has to learn how to curb the dog.
That's so basic it seems ludicrous to ever say it.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 21, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
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The word OK gives explicit consent.
Do you think that when she said okay, she meant "okay you big hunk of man, step up and let me have it." I don't think so. Okay was certainly not explicit consent to have him kiss her aggressively and enter her mouth with his tongue.
Her job? You mean like she's getting paid? Most USO performers contribute their time, get transport, food money, etc. Their support staffs can be paid, but usually top performers who can afford to pay their staff.
Here's a clip of her "groping" Robin Williams, y'all make up yer own minds...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 21, 2017 - 05:31pm PT
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I'm anxious to see the videos of Putin pissing on Trumps bare back...How's Trump going to spin that one...?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Nov 21, 2017 - 05:49pm PT
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The Repubs are doing everything they can to get him out of the race so they can run a write-in candidate without splitting the vote. He's too far right, a renegade who will be a thorn in McConnell's side. In fact they've already said they'll find a way to expel him if he gets elected.
Not so sure about that.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Nov 21, 2017 - 05:52pm PT
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Take the communist state of CA out of the equation and 1 million MORE voted for Trump.
Why are you still living here?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 21, 2017 - 07:22pm PT
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That has wrong written all over it...32 year old dating a 14 year old...In California you'd do 3 years in prison for that maneuver but a red-state pastor sanctioned it so it's all peachy...
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 21, 2017 - 07:26pm PT
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Msnbc played that "purity" interview with that preacher. The interviewer then raise the point that Moore's wife was young and "pure" but also divorced
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 21, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
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As Trump so eloquently stated, it is better to elect an accused child molester than a democrat.
This is where the 'merica finds itself today. The lunatics are running the asylum.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Nov 21, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
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treeze, what makes Frankin a creep is not the actual groping, but using a sleeping girl as a prop for a tasteless faux groping shot. If you feel this is kosher, and calling it out is "stupid," how might you describe an "intelligent" scenario.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Nov 21, 2017 - 11:10pm PT
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bfd, so he's a very minor creep.
She on the other hand is
a lifelong hustler
a faux news propagandist
a liar:
"“You forcibly kissed me without my consent, grabbed my breasts while I was sleeping"
Actually he did neither of those things. She consented to the kiss and then very soon repeated it on stage which was filmed. Obviously she was not traumatized.
And he only pretends to grope, almost touching her flak jacket.
So she is the liar.
Where are her missing stories of antics by the players at fox news?
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Nov 21, 2017 - 11:20pm PT
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trump says: "vote for Roy Moore"
aka
accused rapist tag teams pedophile
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 22, 2017 - 05:04am PT
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It's obvious that neither Treez or Splater have read Tweeden's account of the Franken USO trip.
There's more to it than a kiss and a photo.
Franken has to go. He doesn't get it.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 05:18am PT
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While we all point our fingers - "There! LOOK!!!" we might forget to turn that finger to ourselves and review the way we behave. Most of us will (thankfully) never be exposed in a 15 minutes of fame news segment, but we DO have to live with ourselves - every second of every minute of every hour, each day.
How doe WE treat those around us, and how to WE respond when someone around us behaves in a way that is unacceptable? Nothing will change if we don't take the time during this small conflagration to review our own thoughts and actions.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:14am PT
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Franken has to go. He doesn't get it.
So does Moore.
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