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WBraun
climber
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I don't believe anyone here is a true racist.
But I've been around them.
When I worked for 20 Century Fox in Northern Minnesota the helicopter pilot was a true KKK dude.
We had to make sure the colored guys on the crew never got sent over to the LZ where he was.
You people here cheaply throw the racist term around here at anyone all the time just to make your lame azz points.
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WBraun
climber
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So what ... big fuking deal Mr science know it all. ^^^
Everyone has shades of different skin colors.
But we're all the same inside our soul ......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Cowboy, what the hell is a 'pollack'?
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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not sure I can define it but you know it when you see it
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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I don't believe anyone here is a true racist.
"I don't mean to be rude, but ..."
"Yet, sadly, accidental rudeness occurs alarmingly often."
The problem, IMHO, is that we conflate what we believe with what is true. We're not racist! We just act that way.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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"I don't mean to be rude ..."
"Yet, sadly, accidental rudeness occurs alarmingly often."
The problem, IMHO, is that we conflate what we believe with what is true. We're not racist! We just act that way.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Racism is not a binary state. Racism is both a conscious and a sub-conscious mental state. It can appear in anyone from a KKK lynch mob to a small child, no need to travel to Minnesota to find it.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Racism is not a binary state. Racism is both a conscious and a sub-conscious mental state. It can appear in anyone from a KKK lynch mob to a small child, no need to travel to Minnesota to find it. Good observation, and from rbord as well. A lot of people appear to believe that racism (or a racist) is an unmistakable, like seeing a unicorn or something. It's not. It can be overt, but most often it's not. More often the effects of it are seen more than the thing itself.
During the election, a lot of Trump supporters were defending some of his comments as being simply 'non-PC'. But when those comments are pretty similar, if not identical to comments made by White Nationalists (anything disputing that they are racist), then how can you argue that they're any different? Many seem to believe that being racist requires an admission from the person that they are in fact racist (as in Werner's example). Not true. If it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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This is a bigoted and racist statement.
Why didn't Gary get deactivated?
Because white southerners have been suffering from bigotry and racism for hundreds of years!
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c wilmot
climber
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na·tion·al·ist
ˈnaSH(ə)nələst/
noun
1.
a person who advocates political independence for a country.
"a Scottish nationalist"
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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"White nationalism is a type of nationalism or pan-nationalism which holds the belief that white people are a race and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity. Its proponents identify with and are attached to the concept of a white nation."
To wit, pyro's ban-earning yawp for cousin-f*#king and generally pasty women:
"MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN"
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WBraun
climber
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So you people are all now saying you are racists .......
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Get over the word "racist" WBraun, it is a distraction from the real issue, pre-judging people. You know, black people don't climb, asians don't play basketball, white men can't dance. Or on a more serious note, black man driving in a white neighborhood must be up to no good. Muslim doing his prayers must be a terrorist.
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John M
climber
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Get over the word "racist" WBraun, it is a distraction from the real issue, pre-judging people. You know, black people don't climb, asians don't play basketball, white men can't dance. Or on a more serious note, black man driving in a white neighborhood must be up to no good. Muslim doing his prayers must be a terrorist.
yes.. this. ^^^^^
Christians don't believe in science
All cops are gun toting as#@&%es.. ( okay.. that ones true.. heh heh )
Libtards are socialists and hate america
all socialism is bad
conservawacks are ignorant fools.
All climbers do drugs.. okay.. that ones true too.. :.)
etc. etc..
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Having stayed with many East Texas relatives every summer while growing up in the sixties, I can tell you first hand that I believe I'm a pretty good judge of what true racism is. Seeing extreme poverty and segregation was difficult to understand at that age and by the time I was old enough to process it, most of the violence and backlash against the civil rights movement had already occurred. Back in Sourhern Cal in the 70's things had progressed and racial tensions were winding down some.
When I moved to northern Cal in the eighties and began intermingling with the blue collar rural set I could see the racist undertones in people's attitudes rearing up now and then. LA and the Bay Area have their slums, and racism by way of it's side effect, poverty, is obvious in those areas. But in rural areas the obvious effect is a form of self imposed segregation by way of wealth, class, and/or local attitudes.
Racism in all forms is still common in people of every color. I married into a latino family from southern California who are very progressive and artistic, yet it took many years for me to gain their trust. I know they have a bit of reverse racism, and from the attitudes of so many so called' white people' who call themselves both liberal or conservative, the mistrust exhibited by people of other 'colors' can be justifiable. My wife tells me that most Latino people consider themselves to be Caucasian, even though many have both Southern European, north or south American, and other heritages in their past as well.
I have seen things from both sides, whites hating Mexicans and visa versa. Our society is so skewed, whites hating blacks, blacks hating whites and Mexicans. White people hating Asians, White people hating middle eastern people. Even white Christians hating Jews. It's an ugly roundabout of illogical, outdated, and destructive attitudes.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, ... going by some of the various shares,
here, connected to this thread, i got to thinking about how folks treat others in the world, as to all kinds of differences--
when it all boils-down to "humans":
what i think is:
a major flaw in human nature:
being discontent with oneself/situation, connected to,
jealousy as to others (what they have, or do, or can do)...
this is an age-old HARD to fix thing...
it feeds ALL the other human vices and HATE, in a major way...
if one is content with ones life, and not jealous,
why bother to even hate someone (or attack their human'ness, culture,
color, or families)... (granted there may be some fears, in general,
then, just to being around different surroundings, and folks,
but even travelers, learn to overcome, that)...
KINDNESS is a great balm for not only the inner-man,
but for those around one...
though, sadly, it seems too illusive:
due to--
the above-mentioned, major flaw? perhaps?
well:
unless of course, one steps up into dictatorships and power-hungry,
etc... those that just want to control the world,
but then, that is a whole OTHER awful story
:(
:(
well, was just wondering what was going on here, so
came for a fast check...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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This is a rather troubling document on the handling of undocumented persons who have been convicted of crimes (apparently in the U.S. not before arriving).
A couple of quotes.
According to statistics provided by ICE, in FY2015, ICE released 19,723 criminal aliens who
had a total of 64,197 convictions. This included 101 homicide convictions, 216 kidnapping
convictions, 320 sexual assault convictions, 352 commercialized sexual offenses, 1,347 domestic
violence convictions, 1,728 assault convictions, and 12,307 driving under the influence of
alcohol convictions.2
It would be misleading, however, to hold ICE responsible for all of these
releases. This is breakdown on responsibility for such releases for FY2013 through FY2015
I do not recall a single congressman expressing shock over the fact that enforcement
and removal operations for the entire country are handled by only 6,000 ICE officers.
The New York City Police Department has 34,500 uniform police officers for a single
city.
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The republicans have complained repeatedly about the Administration’s failure
to enforce the immigration laws, but I don’t think there has ever been an
Administration of either party that has had the personnel and resources needed to
mount a large-scale, nationwide enforcement program.
My advice would be to read the whole thing.
http://discuss.ilw.com/content.php?6449-Article-Analysis-of-the-April-28-2016-hearing-before-the-House-Committee-on-Oversight-and-Government
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Is it racist to assume all undocumented workers are non white? If so, is it racist to say a law aimed at undocumented workers is racist?
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
13,000 feet
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since i got so much appreciation for relating facts before
now i will only provide a link.
This is the current LAPD most wanted list,
no PC filter, just who has committed crime in LA and is not detained
have a look for yourself:
http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted
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