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10b4me
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:26am PT
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I can't recall any other instances in my lifetime of a sitting Justice openly taking sides in a Presidential race. And Justice Ginsberg didn't just take sides. She essentially called Trump a piece of sh#t. Not off the mark. But not appropriate for a SC Justice, IMO.
She didn't take sides. She didn't say vote for Clinton.
She was talking about trump's character... Or lack thereof.
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EdwardT
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:26am PT
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Pence reminds me of Admiral Stockdale.
Excellent choice, Donald.
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EdwardT
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:28am PT
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She didn't take sides.
LOL
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dirtbag
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:30am PT
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Technically she didn't take sides. She just said Trump was a d#@&%ebag: she didn't say "I prefer Hillary.".
But Edward is right, she fully weighed in, and I really wish she had kept her yapper shut.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:37am PT
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I'm looking for the New GOP Party platform, but can't find the full version
But I've already heard it does include this:
Mexico building us a wall
policing bathrooms for transgenders
making life for LBGTQ a living hell
keeping Muslims out
policing the internet for suspicious activity (liberals are on that list)
selling off our public lands
and the usual Republican agenda of:
lower wages
high job insecurity
higher wealth inequality
increasing the National debt
cutting food stamps and welfare programs
make college more expensive
make health care insurance costs higher
give more freebies to giant corporations
provide treasury busting tax cut welfare to Corporations and the rich
right wing extremist Sharia Law
make abortion illegal forever
stop women from getting birth control
shut down women's health clinics
I'm sure all the conservatives are ecstatic with this agenda, it's a dream come true, shove a shiv in the back of the others!
The anti-establishment candidate transforms into the a typical GOP establishment candidate, send money!
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dirtbag
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:37am PT
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Pence reminds me of Admiral Stockdale.
Excellent choice, Donald.
Yes, but given that he's scared off nearly everyone who is respected, it was the best choice from a bad pool.
At least we will never have to worry about a president Gingrich or Christie: barf.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:41am PT
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RGB had every right to voice her opinions of the huge threat that Trump is to this country
If you are at her level of understanding of the nature of our Government, she was smart to warn us of Trump
He's a Faker, a con, he should not even be in the running
Good Job, keep up the good work!
Hang in there until President Hillary, and a new Democratic Senate.
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EdwardT
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:45am PT
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RGB had every right to voice her opinions of the huge threat that Trump is to this country
“Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office”
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dirtbag
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:49am PT
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If there is a president trump, her role in any court case she hears related to that administration will be questioned.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:52am PT
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She will call him out for what he is
a Faker
But whatever, she already said she regretted it
So it's all mute.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2016 - 08:53am PT
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how is your cousin, Skippy, Edward?
or do you guys both take turns posting under the new EdwardT username?
you both got banned for being obnoxious, think anything has changed?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:13am PT
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On the one hand, the idea that the judiciary is composed of perfect human beings who have no political affiliation (or at least can 100% set that aside at work) is BS. So in some ways getting that out in the open isn't all a bad thing.
On the other hand, I think it was a mistake on her part.
Actually, her biggest mistake was not retiring while Obama could still do her replacement. I can't see her making it 4 more years, let alone 8.
If the R's win, then the SC is likely to be to the right of Kennedy for 20+ years. Fortunately, the R's put up a candidate who might actually be able to lose to Hillary, but it is hardly a sure thing.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:26am PT
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Trump sent Christie to pick up his dry cleaning
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/furious-christie-refuses-to-pick-up-trumps-dry-cleaning
NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Governor Chris Christie, of New Jersey, angrily refused to pick up Donald Trump’s dry cleaning during a tense encounter between the two men on Friday, campaign sources confirm.
The ugly scene unfolded at the billionaire’s offices in midtown Manhattan, shortly after Trump revealed that his Vice-Presidential pick would be Governor Mike Pence of Indiana.
According to Trump aides, Christie stomped into the presumptive Republican nominee’s office and hurled a dry-cleaning ticket onto his desk, telling Trump, “You can pick up your own damn dry cleaning.”
The New Jersey governor then stormed out, and has not been seen by Trump or his staffers since.
Trump’s press secretary, Hope Hicks, warned the media against making too much of the apparent rift between the billionaire and Christie. “In the long hours of a campaign, emotions can sometimes get a little raw,” she said. “We are confident that Governor Christie will pick up Mr. Trump’s dry cleaning going forward.”
(this is satire)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:33am PT
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EdwardT/Skip thinks there is actually judicial neutrality in the Supreme Court, what a joke. Where were you in 2000?
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-12/it-was-fine-for-justice-ginsburg-to-speak-her-mind
From the link above: "John Marshall, the greatest Chief Justice, served as John Adams’s secretary of state at the same time that he was chief justice. The Constitution says you can’t be in Congress and also work for the executive branch. But it doesn’t demand a similar separation for justices.
Sure, Marshall’s dual role, which ended after Thomas Jefferson defeated Adams and became president in 1801, would be unthinkable today. But it’s good proof that the Founders’ generation, at least, wasn’t obsessed with the idea that justices have to be outside the reach of politics."
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:38am PT
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I'd say you are just about right, August.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:38am PT
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Donini posted
Cataracts are the third leading cause of blindness, the top two are politics and religion.
Haha.
Maybe some products in these California clinics could help me prevent glaucoma,
but my struggle to recover from the blindness induced by politics remains in doubt ;-)
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:50am PT
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Pence really is a good choice: his extremist views will rally young voters of the Left to get their arse to the polls and vote for Hillary.
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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 15, 2016 - 11:33am PT
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Dingus posted I just searched the U.S. Constitution and all its amendments and am shocked the above quoted phrase is no where to be found.
Class dismissed.
Our Constitution doesn't actually contain the complete recipe for democracy and adopting it didn't make our republic successful. Faith in the justice system is a foundation for democracy and RBG's comments are but one of many actions by justices recently that undermine public confidence in the Supreme Court. She didn't break any rules, but that doesn't mean it was in the best interest of our republic.
Bob posted Sure, Marshall’s dual role, which ended after Thomas Jefferson defeated Adams and became president in 1801, would be unthinkable today. But it’s good proof that the Founders’ generation, at least, wasn’t obsessed with the idea that justices have to be outside the reach of politics."
There were a lot of things broken about our government back then. Thomas Jefferson bought a newspaper specifically so that he could talk sh#t about George Washington's policies while Jefferson was Washington's Secretary of State. We idolize the Founding Fathers but there have in fact been a number of improvements to our system over the last 200 years.
Escopeta posted
Rebutted how? Its not my fault that your stance on the issue has holes.
If there is absolutely no value in the 2nd Amendment from the perspective of protection against tyranny, then your answer should be an easy one.
For the record, the hypothetical question asked was - "If the US suddenly had a dictator that for whatever reason the US armed forces were completely supportive of and used the entire strength of the our military might to support this dictator......how long would the dictator live?
Really, a long time as in a week? Because a dictator in this country wouldn't last three days from the coup. And that's just due to travel time to get within a mile or so from said dictator.
From the moment you started posting on this forum you've insisted on asking hypothetical questions based on flawed premises designed specifically to make the answer you already have correct. When people point out the flaws you declare yourself the victor because they "couldn't answer" and then, just like here, you declare the answer that you designed the question for to be the obvious truth. In a world where the military "for whatever reason" supported Trump's dictatorship the length of time he would live would be exactly as long as any dictator in any other country ever. It might be days, it might be decades. People already drive to the White House to try to kill the President and he doesn't have tanks parked on the lawn.
Escopeta posted And if you think that solidarity is what solved Polands problems then great, but in the case of a dictator or an invading force, I think I'd rather have a gun and thankyouverymuch for not making that choice for me.
I'm not trying to force a gun into your hand so don't force me to rely solely on solidarity as a means for defense.
It's really that simple. All I'm asking for is that a choice NOT be made for me.
Again, your arguments have to be made against "taking away all our guns" instead of what most people are actually discussing.
But you, and others, won't admit it because it doesn't jive with your silly anti-gun, pro racism agenda.
That made me laugh.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 15, 2016 - 11:44am PT
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Donald Trump: Sarah Palin won't speak at RNC because Alaska is too far away
By Tom Kludt, CNN
Updated 9:56 PM ET, Thu July 14, 2016
In an interview with the Washington Examiner on Thursday, Trump said that Palin was asked to speak, but that the distance ultimately precluded her from making the trip.
"It's a little bit difficult because of where she is," Trump said, referring to Palin's home state of Alaska. "We love Sarah. Little bit difficult because of, you know, it's a long ways away."
It is a well know fact that you can't get to Cleveland from Alaska, right?
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