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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jul 19, 2016 - 09:53pm PT
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F*cking sad.
Ah, the persistent troll raises its head from among the floaters in its personal cesspool.
What's "f*cking sad" is the hard-on you seem to have for me.
Did I cuckold you in another life? Maybe right in front of you? I'm far from perfect, so just about anything is possible.
Bwahahaha
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jul 19, 2016 - 10:09pm PT
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YOU WILL NEVER RIP MY CLIP FROM MY KUNG-FU GRIP!
Continue with the evening session of the Zone
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jul 19, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
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NPD correlation to lunar cycles?
Or is somebody just drinking and waiting for the next nappy change?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jul 19, 2016 - 10:15pm PT
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As smart as you believe yourself to be, you've clearly mistaken my disdain for morons as some sort of crush on you.
ROFL
No, it's clearly a hard-on. If it's strictly for morons, then you must try to keep yourself away from mirrors, so that you don't spend your entire life pounding on your woody, Burcheydawwwwwwg.
Pssttt, snort. Hehe.
You've just got a healthy record of saying stupid sh*t, and thus, I must interact with you in order to bring that fact to your attention.
Oh, wow. I'm spewing coffee out of my nose. "ROFL" doesn't get it done.
The wizened troll thinks it matters, that it's accomplishing something.
Pssttt, snort. Pffftttt.
You're not that special, braj.
You're not a special troll, try as you might. The little engine that couldn't.
Pfffttt....
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 19, 2016 - 10:26pm PT
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Oh the irony, look at 'em go
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jul 19, 2016 - 11:31pm PT
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Nah, I don't get into pissing contests with trolls once I see them for what they are.
At first I was curious about your raging hard-on. Now I only feel and say....
Pfftttt
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jul 20, 2016 - 12:19am PT
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The difficulty in sport climbing is real, and is the entire point. Everything else is artificial. The idea that you are leading something in any real sense is bogus. Someone either rapped down or aided up and placed all the protection points. Even the draws are often already in place. It's a via ferrata without cables between the anchor points.
That top rope and/or those hooks and intermediate rivets are permanent background features of the ascent, so what you are doing is exciting top-roping, or something quite a bit easier and possibly less risky than exciting top-roping if the wall overhangs a lot. You aren't replacing leading with stick clipping because you were never really leading to begin with.
Very well said, Rich, and not surprisingly ignored in this thread. The entire idea that leading a sport climb is somehow superior to top roping is completely an artificial and fictitious construct.
Curt
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Jul 20, 2016 - 07:45am PT
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It's always nice to see one's comments get a second chance to be completely ignored.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 20, 2016 - 08:07am PT
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Sport climbing is just an iteration of Pokemon Go, if somewhat more beneficial to one's fitness.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Jul 20, 2016 - 08:07am PT
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I don't think you're ever ignored. Most typically, once you've made your point there is really no need for additional comment.
Appreciate your insight and wisdom as always RGold.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Jul 20, 2016 - 08:31am PT
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Never ignored and always appreciated, Rich. It's the problem of not having the comment "like" button.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jul 20, 2016 - 09:18am PT
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Another Plus on the appreciate Mr. Gold's posts front but of course the thread turned into joking and smoking because it was a stupid troll from the start
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 20, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
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Style
Noun
A manner of doing something
synonyms:
Manner, way, technique, method, methodology, approach, system, mode, form.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 20, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
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I don't think you're ever ignored. Most typically, once you've made your point there is really no need for additional comment :)
DMT
OK, I'm piling on, but DMT and those that followed stated my thoughts about your post here (and in general), Richie, as well, but with this caveat: Leading a sport route differs from top roping in that the climber who leads can feel (as opposed to think) that the belayer didn't pull him or her up the route. When I was younger, and consequently lighter, my call for "tension!" as a follower really meant "pull like hell!"
John
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jul 20, 2016 - 01:53pm PT
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In top roping it is called penalty Slack
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 20, 2016 - 02:02pm PT
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Leading sport climbs and top roping are completely different animals. You see people all the time electing to take a ride on a sport climb rather than hang the draws....I did so today!
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jul 20, 2016 - 02:12pm PT
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Leading sport climbs and top roping are completely different animals.
Yeah. Much like Bud Light and Miller Lite...
Curt
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 20, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
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Why don't you go send some of the sport climbs in Switzerland and Sardinia.....might seem like pretty stout beer!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 20, 2016 - 02:28pm PT
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How you got to that moment of perfection simply doesn't matter.
Then why do people care about onsights?
If sport climbing doesn't have an aspect of "lead climbing" then neither does aid climbing.
If we are making up our own definitions I'm going with naked free soloing is they only thing that's really "climbing".
P.S. bouldering doesn't count as "climbing".
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jul 20, 2016 - 02:29pm PT
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Haven't climbed there yet, but some routes in Tuolumne are pretty run out too.
But, those routes aren't really sport climbs either.
Curt
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