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jonnyrig

climber
May 7, 2015 - 10:35pm PT
I don't compile lists for right or wrong in your case. Or much anyone else's.

Tests for what? Bear with me... I'm kinda dumb in my preference for people spelling out exactly what they mean. Much less confusion that way.
jonnyrig

climber
May 7, 2015 - 10:43pm PT
Step back, think about what you're proposing. Look at it afresh, without considering all those hundreds of videos you're alluding to. Look at what you've posted on its face value.

I'm not here to piss you off. I want clarification. I want evidence. I don't want some link to some other asshat's theory with a link to another asshat's theory that some third party asshat connected with a sketch-a-scope shoestring about how the local Target's in bed with the NSA because DHS bought five boxes of 22lr from a guy named Azkabar last tuesday during a replay of CSI that involved Snowden.
jonnyrig

climber
May 7, 2015 - 10:49pm PT
The obvious threat of terrorism is already here. I think they'd be more interested in disrupting the normal "American" way of life, in a public setting, involving significant cultural events and/or landmarks. American symbology, if you will. Any type of "incident" involving acts of terrorism could most likely be easily downplayed as an unfortunate training accident during an active military training exercise, no? No press, no vivid imagery, just a great big "meh" from the American public.

Hey... I have a copy of that song. I like to play it on the stereo in the old beater dodge when i roll up to an occupied hotspring out on the playa. hehe
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
May 7, 2015 - 10:56pm PT
Ron, move to Brazil if you hate America...
jonnyrig

climber
May 7, 2015 - 10:56pm PT
They're all liars, without a doubt, at some level. We can only vote for the lesser of two weevils. One thing about it, they're already coming under scrutiny. And that makes it difficult to do much of anything surreptitiously.

Undoubtedly, they have better intel and forecasting ability than we do. Maybe I'll swing by the store and pick up a couple more boxes of ammo, in case they leave some beer cans lying around.
philo

Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
May 7, 2015 - 11:05pm PT
Meanwhile in the real world.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/thousands-join-led-war-games-jordan-150506123455315.html

Thousands join US-led war games in Jordan
Around 10,000 troops from 18 countries including several Gulf states are participating in the two-week military drills.
06 May 2015 13:16 GMT | War & Conflict, Middle East, Jordan, ISIL


Thousands of soldiers from 18 countries are taking part in military drills in Jordan jointly overseen by the US army, amid a US-led coalition strikes against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group.
Around 10,000 troops are participating in the fifth "Eager Lion" annual war games, which will last for two weeks.
Since the last drill, ISIL has seized large areas of Syria and Iraq and is seen as a threat to the stability of Jordan, a Western ally.
Jordan's Brigadier General Fahad al-Damen, in charge of joint training, told reporters that the rise of extremist groups mandates cooperation "to fight all aspects and types of terrorism."
US major general Rick Mattson, meanwhile, told reporters in the Jordanian capital Amman that the military drills "have nothing to do with what is currently happening in the region."
"The more we work together the stronger we are."
Mattson said the drill will include responses to conventional and unconventional threats, including border security.
As well as troops from the US and Jordan, military contingents from several nearby Arab states and troops from France, Italy and Pakistan will take part in drills in the Jordanian desert.
The exercises will focus on challenges such as "combating terrorism" and border security, said Jordanian Brigadier General Fhad al-Damin.
Jordan has intensified its air raids against ISIL since the armed group burned alive one of its pilots who crashed in Syria earlier this year, but there are fears its participation in US-led strikes could drag the kingdom into nearby conflicts.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
May 7, 2015 - 11:07pm PT
No how on earth would you surmise I hate America? Ive been a life supporter of the military and LEO community. I was in the LEO community.
Yup...
dirtbag

climber
May 8, 2015 - 03:53am PT
I am laughing robustly at this.
philo

Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
May 8, 2015 - 05:48am PT
nwo2 why don't you respond for a refreshing change.
Rather than posing your question to everyone ad infinitum, ad nauseum why don't you answer it. Where do you want your rfid chip planted?
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
May 8, 2015 - 07:00am PT
That's a USB port, not likely an RFID tag.... :)

Technological innovation itself it not evil. Tools are just that. To fear technology, even RFID implants, is no different than fearing firearms or planes, even religions or races.

It's the willfull misuse of such tools by select groups of sociopaths that's of a concern. The will and the resulting behavior is what matters, not the tool.
dirtbag

climber
May 8, 2015 - 07:01am PT
Nwo, I really don't give a sh#t.


I'm much more concerned with impending problems (e.g., climate change) and current problems than far fetched conspiracies carried out by some vague bogeyman just out of sight. What is sad is that leaders in Texas face real problems, but they'd rather chase this nonsense, minimalize or deny real problems, and pander to the paranoid fringes of their base.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 8, 2015 - 07:03am PT
The funny part is that when nothing happens this summer Ron will claim it was because watchful citizens like He, Bundy and Chuck Norris were able to make 'em behave and that he was right all along.
dirtbag

climber
May 8, 2015 - 07:04am PT
Bingo!^^^
Gary

Social climber
From A Buick 6
May 8, 2015 - 07:06am PT
I can imagine the discussion that took place during the planning:
Mr. President, I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed. I do say, no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops! Depending on the breaks.
dirtbag

climber
May 8, 2015 - 07:07am PT
And we get to double-have Texas!
philo

Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
May 8, 2015 - 07:11am PT
nwo2 why would you assume that any of us would opt in to rfid implants?
It's a rhetorical canard you posit. I opt out. Most people ignore your question because it isn't realistic at this time. LIKE dirtbag I am vastly more concerned with critical environmental issues.
If the bee populations continues to collapse it won't matter where anyone "wants" to have their chip placed. Will it?

And Survival you pegged it.
philo

Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
May 8, 2015 - 07:23am PT
Chips and Dip on the house.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 8, 2015 - 07:43am PT
And the proof being.... 6 Wal-Marts closed for Plumbing problems
Ron repeated that proof time after time, why would they close otherwise??
It couldn't be anything else??

that was all it took for these loons to come up with some paranoid conspiracy about the evil Gubmint coming after them.

It couldn't be real plumbing problems, or union busting, out of the 100s of stores in Texas, 6 were closed !!! Oh my!! What is the Gubmint planning now???

Will any Conservatives call out these crazies that run their Party??

No, they love all the suckers no matter how stupid or irresponsible, they are all welcome into the Party of Stupid and anti-science, anti -reason, paranoia and greed.



you can tell how little critical thinking skills NWO II has by his constant questioning about how we WILL take our RFID tags

Hey Moron, everybody already has happily agreed to carry their GPS containing tag around with them everywhere they go, it records their every word, Google search and e-mail

They're called smart phones
No one cares.
wow, I guess the fluoride has worked on some people's minds


I do care that the Gov. (Bush's Patrioit act) is illegally recording it.
That's why I vote against the Anti-Constitutional Repubs.
How do you vote?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 8, 2015 - 08:10am PT
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/what-jade-helm-conspiracy-stupidest-thing-come-out-texas-20-years
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
May 8, 2015 - 08:17am PT
The funny part is that when nothing happens this summer Ron will claim it was because watchful citizens like He, Bundy and Chuck Norris were able to make 'em behave and that he was right all along.

No, I don't think Ron will claim that the presence of armed and watchful citizens stopped the US military from taking over part of the country. What he said upthread when I asked him about this was that it was possible nothing would happen, but what that would mean was that the exercise was a test run for a military takeover, rather than the real thing.

Which is to say, no matter what happens or doesn't happen, Ron can say "See? I was right!"

Arguing with him is pointless. There is nothing you can say to him or show him that will change his mind, because for him, this is not a matter of fact, but a matter of belief.

Look at it another way. If Ron could show you credible evidence of a plot, you'd change your mind, right? Or if something happened during the exercise that showed it was actually aimed at getting the US Army ready to attack US citizens, you'd be the first to say "I was wrong." But if you say in advance that no matter what happens you will never change your mind, then you've entered the realm of religious belief and talking to you is pointless.
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