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mark miller

Social climber

Reno

Mar 15, 2014 - 12:01am PT

SF is a beautiful city, you just need to avoid certain districts.
The culture, museums and the ocean.....and better weather then B.C. or Seattle. Except of course the renown statement from the extinguished writer Marc Twain," the coldest winter I've ever spent was a summer in SF"....Funny stuff. They have pleasant cool weather through the early summer, thank gawd it beats the Heck out of the weather on the eastside during that same period. I try to get to the city at least once a year, it's fabulous. But then again I'm comparing it to Reno and Detroit, no wonder why I think it's the shite.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Mar 15, 2014 - 12:04am PT

Hey, blue....what do you think about Ron?

You tend to be pretty much incommunicado whenever he takes a sh#t and gets the feathers flying. Silence = Acceptance?

Or... Silence = I don't want anything to do with that dipsh#t?

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Mar 15, 2014 - 12:32am PT

Hey, blue....what do you think about Ron?

You tend to be pretty much incommunicado whenever he takes a sh#t and gets the feathers flying. Silence = Acceptance?

Or... Silence = I don't want anything to do with that dipsh#t?

Tend to like Ron. Seems cool.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Mar 15, 2014 - 04:20am PT

Jefe, I'll finger bang you if nobody else steps up.

I've got a deformed finger that's all lumpy n sh#t, you'll love it.

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber

I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!

Mar 15, 2014 - 05:27am PT

SF? more butt f*#king per sq mile than any other city,

taxi cabs? got about 5, the drivers are in the trunk,

did you see the Valet Parking deal?>

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5)

With space tight in downtown San Francisco, valet parking is a fact of life here. But did you ever wonder what happens to your car after you hand over the keys? CBS 5 Investigates has been looking into what happens in one popular nightspot.

Welcome to North Beach, where there are lots of Italian restaurants, lots of people, lots of cars with virtually no parking spaces. Here, the valet is king, and he gets to drive off with your car.

"Someone comes and gets my car and they park my car for me," one woman told CBS 5 Investigates.

"Some places do valet their cars and park them in and around the neighborhood," said another.

And when we asked a third he said: "Park it, immediately, then bring it back. Is that not what happens?"

Well not always. CBS 5 Investigates witnessed a valet takes a customer's Toyota SUV over Telegraph Hill and down to a waterfront parking lot, where you'd think it would stay. But a short time later, a group of valets pile back into that car and go for a ride. Not to the restaurant, but rather into a nearby alley, where they all jump out.

What's the reason behind that? Well the valets have to find spaces to park all those cars. So CBS 5 discovered they're actually driving some of those cars clear out of North Beach, up and down steep hills and down to the water, where they finally park the cars in a lot on the waterfront roughly three-quarters of a mile away. And how do the valets get back to North Beach to pick up their next car? Well we found their solution: In some cases they just use your car.

And not just once: One Saturday night, four valets get into a car already parked at the lot for a ride back to North Beach. But they don't get dropped off at the restaurant, since customers might see. So they drop them off at a familiar alley a half block up the hill. The valets then run down the sidewalk to pick up another batch of cars. In fact CBS 5 witnessed nine round trips for the Toyota 4-Runner over a 2-hour period.

"What are you guys doing with the cars here?" we asked the valets on one of those stops in the alley. "This is a client's car, yes?"

Their answer: No. It's rented.

Tell that to the customer who owns it. CBS 5 approached him a short time later after he and his family finished their meal at North Beach restaurant Bocce's and explained what happened to his vehicle during dinner.

"Huh! I'll have to ask about that," the owner said.

And we also wondered what the owner of a Porsche SUV might think if he saw his vehicle parked on Grant Street picking up a pizza. Evidently valets get hungry on Saturday nights too and what's better than a personal Porsche pizza delivery guy, bringing dinner down to the parking lot.

It's not exactly what Max Fattahian thought was happening with his Porsche.

"They're getting a takeout with my car? A pizza takeout? That's an expensive pizza delivery car," Fattahian said. "The guy buys his pizza and a whole bunch of them in the car and he's going all over the city. It's unacceptable."

Bocce restaurant owner Welat Yuksel agrees. "It's not okay to use customers' cars, it's not right" he told us after watching the video CBS 5 Investigates shot.

He said s it's all a surprise to him. "The pictures are clear there, it's very embarrassing," he said.

So we tried to talk to this man: Nurullah Zira, the owner of that valet parking service, but he didn't want to talk.

"You have no right to do what you are doing right now…You are interfering with my business," Zira said.

Interfering with his business? Our videotaping, a criminal matter?

"I am going to call the police department," he insisted.

And as restaurant patrons watched, the SFPD arrived, but not with the answer Zira wanted.

"My sergeant says you have every right to film, whatever you like to do." The officer said.

The parking company owner did tell us he would come by for an interview. But then he cancelled. Later, he did claim to us that he was unaware of his employees using customers' cars for shuttles and he plans to discipline those who did. He says he provides two shuttle cars for his valets and on the night we talked to him outside the restaurant, his employees should have been using them.

kaholatingtong

Trad climber

Nevada City

Mar 15, 2014 - 10:10am PT

knew i shoulda grabbed a valet job while i was in the city

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Mar 15, 2014 - 04:38pm PT

SF voters help keep this state from being run by a bunch of backward hillbillies and help keep America from being run by Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.

GO SF!!!

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Mar 15, 2014 - 04:40pm PT

Um, so it's communism or fascism, are the choices in your mind? Communism being the preference?

EDIT All conservative voters in Cali are hillbillies? If I don't play nice with Dems, I'm a Hillbilly?

That would make you a bigot, by definition.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Mar 15, 2014 - 05:45pm PT

Whatever Cletus! Or is it Jed?

BTW, I will take you up on that climbing offer one of these days, just so I can count your teeth!

(But not until after I give you a good solid finger banging.)

drljefe

climber

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson

Mar 15, 2014 - 05:58pm PT

I sense some white-on-white tension here.

Ghost

climber

A long way from where I started

Mar 15, 2014 - 06:00pm PT

Oh my god, the disease is spreading! First San Francisco, now Boston and New York.

Headline today:

Heineken and Sam Adams boycott St. Patrick's Day parades
Two of the country's biggest beer companies are withdrawing their sponsorships of upcoming St. Patrick's Day parades because gay and lesbian groups aren't allowed to march openly.

How much more redneck can you get than Sam Adams and Heineken? If outfits like those two are on the gay rights bandwagon, it's only a question of time before Ron can be scandalized right there in Carson City.

Time to move to Uganda or Iran, guys. They sympathize with your views in those places.

MisterE

climber

Mar 15, 2014 - 10:18pm PT

How much more redneck can you get than Sam Adams and Heineken? If outfits like those two are on the gay rights bandwagon, it's only a question of time before Ron can be scandalized right there in Carson City.

Time to move to Uganda or Iran, guys. They sympathize with your views in those places.

Bruce Morris

Social climber

Belmont, California

Mar 16, 2014 - 02:22am PT

I don't beat up on gays or African Americans, just Italians and Roman Catholics. Just so no to the Counter Reformation! Fight back against the Black Friars and their Satan Pope.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Mar 16, 2014 - 02:30am PT

Not sure why Ron and Blue are afraid of gays, but maybe they're homo.

Who frincking cares about gays, doesn't bother me, not sure what part of u is Relegious Blue, you seem like a pretty bitter guy, with a lot of hate and hostility.

Just disagree with the behavior, brah. Not a fear thing at all.

WBraun

climber

Mar 17, 2014 - 11:33am PT

Nobody wants to talk to you bonehead Bomz to begin with.

They know you're a certified nutcase .....

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Mar 17, 2014 - 11:35am PT

Tioga + Blue + Ron = Michael Savage

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Mar 17, 2014 - 11:51am PT

Man, tioga...that's harsh. Still, a pretty typical hyperbolic (angry, too) characterization from the right.

Sooooo...if SF sucks, then what's your idea of a good city?