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Anastasia

climber

InLOVEwithAris.

Dec 8, 2012 - 02:14pm PT

Granite,
I did not call you names. I simply did no agree with you.
AFS

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber

like Ontario, Canada, eh?

Dec 8, 2012 - 02:30pm PT

I repeat,

I jugged and rapped these ropes. They are old/stiff caving ropes, and a bit herky jerky on rappel, but they are emphatically knott junk, and have plenty of life left in them for the exact purpose they were being used for - fixing pitches to jug and rap on.

graniteclimber

Trad climber

The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division

Dec 8, 2012 - 03:17pm PT

First:

Shut Up! ... Damn fools, bunch of wankers talking sh#t while I bet most have done their share of pooping up their lives, never had the balls to clean it up like Steve.

Then:

I did not call you names. I simply did no agree with you.

graniteclimber

Trad climber

The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division

Dec 8, 2012 - 03:35pm PT

I jugged and rapped these ropes. They are old/stiff caving ropes, and a bit herky jerky on rappel, but they are emphatically knott junk, and have plenty of life left in them for the exact purpose they were being used for - fixing pitches to jug and rap on.

I've been thinking this over, and I now think that there is more of chance that they were taken by someone with malicious intent then I thought earlier. This based on Ride On's second post that he later deleted. I haven't been to the Valley in months and did not know that you were working this project with Steve. I thought it was weird all quickly you jumped on that and outright LIED about how he had the same IP address. It's pretty clear that you pissed people up there, Pete. Also, a lot of people don't like you for all kinds of reasons: stalking women (allegedly) throwing pigs of the rock, you name it. You've been thrown off other forums for this. I'll never forget how you offended a woman so much that she publicly accused you here of giving her an STD. There is much more motive for this to be a theft made out of spite.

Or since you are such an unscrupulous liar, maybe you took them Pete? I don't think you did, but I think you'd be capable of it.

shipoopoi

Big Wall climber

oakland

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2012 - 01:33pm PT

10/11/12 ROPES RECOVERED. Two days ago i was contacted by the party that removed my ropes. They were NOT STOLEN as i thought, but were part of a misguided attempt to clean up what they perceived as garbage. The party intends to get my ropes back to me. i am happy about that, and especially glad to know that my ropes were not poached. The party said if i had just left a note, they would have left my lines alone. ss

shipoopoi

Big Wall climber

oakland

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2012 - 01:41pm PT

bump

philo

Trad climber

Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?

Dec 11, 2012 - 01:41pm PT

Wow a lot of hand wringing histrionics over a misinterpreted good deed.
Oh well all's well that ends well. Glad the mystery was solved and no one was seriously harmed.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Dec 11, 2012 - 01:48pm PT

They were NOT STOLEN as i thought, but were part of a misguided attempt to clean up what they perceived as garbage.

Good news. BTW, If this was a good deed gone bad, I'm still curious why they left the top line up there? Who cleans trash and leaves a cord stranded in space?

Steve, I talked to Robbie L. last night, good stuff!!!

Powder

Trad climber

SF Bay Area

Dec 11, 2012 - 01:57pm PT

Glad you got your ropes back! :]

graniteclimber

Trad climber

The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division

Dec 11, 2012 - 02:20pm PT

I am glad that you got your ropes back. After some of the discussion I priced out what new static ropes cost now, and they're not cheap.

Your initial post rubbed me the wrong way and I reacted to that. And when I was attacked or that, it just made me dig in further. I'm glad my gut impression of why they were removed was right, but am more glad that I was wrong in guessing they'd thrown them away.

Also, I said it before, but after I put myself "in your shoes" I realized that what you posted was not different from what I would have wanted to post if it had happened to me.

Edit: I'm also curious why they left the top rope.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Dec 11, 2012 - 02:26pm PT

Edit: I'm also curious why they left the top rope.

Me too, STILL CURIOUS!

shipoopoi

Big Wall climber

oakland

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2012 - 07:08pm PT

i just spoke to the person who removed my lines and now know the whole story. apparently, this person was asked by a person in uniform if he could take the lines down that were mine. no idea who that person in uniform was. kind of unprecedented...a ranger asking an unknown climber to remove fixed lines. without that little push, my ropes would have been there for me to remove on dec 4th. as it was, they were taken down ten days before that, on 11/23.

anyway, on the recovery effort, a couple of noobs were along and one of them got scared on the last fixed rope, and basically had to be rescued off the rope, and that was the end of the rope retrieval effort, and why the last rope never got cleaned off.

so, we had a great talk about it, and hit it off on the phone and are even thinking about roping up for the big stone next year. go figure! ss

jstan

climber

Dec 11, 2012 - 07:27pm PT

In a better world we would have allowed for this as a possibility right at the start.

By direct description the ropes looked like crap. Wasn't this enough?