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zBrown
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Brujo de la Playa
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The five were due for release in 2014 anyway.
When wars end, prisoners taken custody must be released. These five Guantanamo detainees were almost all members of the Taliban, according to the biographies of the five detainees that the Afghan Analysts Network compiled in 2012. None were facing charges in either military or civilian courts for their actions. It remains an open question whether the end of U.S. involvement in the armed conflict in Afghanistan requires that all Guantanamo detainees must be released. But there is no doubt that Taliban detainees captured in Afghanistan must be released because the armed conflict against the Taliban will be over.
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Statistics from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence show that only 6 percent (5 in total) of Guantanamo detainees released during the Obama administration have been assessed to have potentially engaged in militant activities. That compares with a rate of nearly 30 percent under the Bush administration. While these statistics have been criticized as including activities that no one should consider threatening the security of the United States, such as writing op-eds critical of U.S. policy, no one is arguing that they are undercounting those detainees who potentially have committed violent acts upon release.
So the statistics show that there is a 5 percent chance at most that these detainees will engage in militant activities upon release, they will be in Qatar for at least a year by which time the U.S. combat role in Afghanistan will be over, and they would have had to be released soon anyway. When put in the proper perspective, obtaining the release of the sole U.S. prisoner in Afghanistan is a masterstroke and worthy of congratulations.
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mitchy
Trad climber
new england
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So they guy went AWOL and got picked up by the taliban, now he's back home, kinda like Sgt. Brodie on Homeland. I don't really see the problem.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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...kinda like Sgt. Brodie on Homeland.
^^^^ LOL ^^^^
Somebody had the nuts to say it! Ha!!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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He was hen picked up by the Taliban
Well, folks, there you have it, you go over to the dark side at yer peril of being hen picked.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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John Bellinger, who served as a national security adviser to President George W. Bush, said in a Fox News interview Tuesday that he believed Obama did the right thing in its recovery of Bergdahl.
we do NOT leave ANY of our soldiers behind
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Man, all I can say is, I wanna be the Toyota manager of fleet sales to the Taliban.
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Once Bowe is discharged He will join the waiting list at the VA and receive disability payments for life for his PSTD and hearing loss.
Hopefully Chief will help him get rides to the VA in Boise and get him help with all the paperwork.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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holy crap! when you've lost mad magazine...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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I cited "leave no one behind". I was also a Sgt., regular army. I'd like the truth to be known for one reason: if he deserted, he's not entitled to promotions or lifetime benefits. If he was taken POW, he is. I wouldn't want the kid incarcerated, but I don't think he's entitled to the benefits of honorable service if facts are found indicating that he deserted.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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There are more shoes to drop here.
Bergdahl hooked up with the Haqqani bunch. They have been described as 20% Al-Qaida, 80% Goodfellas
The prisoners are all Taliban.
Somewhere a significant amount of cash changed hands as well.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oooooooo, dropping shoes!
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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"To repsond to the worm's misleading propaganda"
to respond to the idiot's misleading accusations
it's not my "propoganda"; i was simply quoting a traditionally liberal humor magazine and a slightly-to-the-right-of-nyt newspaper
"So if Obama released these 5 next year, as the already agreed upon release date, it would have been OK, right?"
no
"Are we still at war with the Taliban? No, then why does it matter if they go back to their home inside the Taliban"
first, the taliban is not a state/country; their home is afghanistan where their comrades continue to kill americans and muslims...as far as i know, even barry hasn't canceled the war on terror (or grounded his effective taliban-killing drone force); so, yes, we are still at war with the taliban...more significantly, the taliban is still at war with us, just like they were BEFORE 9/11, which they and their comrades openly declared but we, to our deep regrets, ignored (and yes, i'm including clinton and bush in this mistake)
They sure aren't going to come back and hurt us here in America, they saw how that turned out for them."
are you really that dense? they didn't "come here" in the first place, and the recidivism for detainees is about 1 in 3; we've only released one other who was close to these 5 in rank (while bush was in office and the intel was weak) and he went right back to work killing americans and muslims...many of those who did return to battle ended up dead but, according to them, they're now enjoying their 72 virgins so it actually worked out quite well for them
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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With 200,000 men and 13 years of our training, billions and billions in money and blood, it's about time for the Afghan military to stand on their own two f*#king feet, don't you think?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Either Obama didn't know. DURR.
Or he didn't think we'd find out. DURRRRR.
or he forgot to consult the internet advisors...Durrrr
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overwatch
climber
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No offense to the chief I don't harbor the apparent hatred of him many others here seem to. I respect him for his service. But that picture was skillfully done.
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