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Norton
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WELL,
Since theDood is big on quoting the Bible, here is some more of the WORD OF GOD:
God Commands Burning Humans
[The Lord speaking] "The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel." (Joshua 7:15 NLT)
Josiah and Human Sacrifice
At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you." (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)
He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people: "You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant." There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah's reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD's Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since. (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)
Human Sacrifice
Chastised a little, they shall be greatly blessed, because God tried them and found them worthy of himself. As gold in the furnace, he proved them, and as sacrificial offerings he took them to himself. In the time of their visitation they shall shine, and shall dart about as sparks through stubble; (Wisdom 3:5-7 NAB The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible.)
Child Sacrifice
And this became a hidden trap for mankind, because men, in bondage to misfortune or to royal authority, bestowed on objects of stone or wood the name that ought not to be shared. Afterward it was not enough for them to err about the knowledge of God, but they live in great strife due to ignorance, and they call such great evils peace. For whether they kill children in their initiations, or celebrate secret mysteries, or hold frenzied revels with strange customs… (Wisdom 14:21-23 RSV) The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible. This passage condemns human sacrifice but acknowledges that it did happen by early God worshipers.
Humans are Fuel for Fire
As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken. (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB)
Burn Nonbelievers
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Satin?
The Devil?
Burning humans in "hell"?
Stupid adults tell their children that kind of stuff to scare them into behaving.
Some really stupid adults actually believe that crap themselves.
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Haha
Religion is all some of these people in Afghanistan have - uneducated and programmed to a point where their thinking is not any better than less intelligent animal species.
and THIS is why radical is, and will forever be, a dick.
you're a poseur riley. no one from the Dhamma would say that.
Edit: By the way, I condemn the killing of NATO people by Afghan troops and civilians. It's one reason why the country has never and will not be a civil country for centuries to come. Too much time, 40 years, spent warring amongst each other.
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cintune
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Yeah, sure. Those same prophecies used to be a perfect fit with Cold War doomsday scenarios too, until that all came undone. That's the cool thing about prophecy, you can always recast it to suit whatever happens to be going on in the moment, and just ignore the parts that don't line up perfectly. Like, f'rinstance, the Western Wall wasn't technically part of the Second Temple, but without it the temple couldn't have been built, so even though the prophecy specifies "every stone," well, he didn't really mean every stone. Just the ones that are actually gone. Perfect. I'd love to see you finish a jigsaw puzzle with that logic.
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cintune
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Yep, thanks for making my point. Keep on shadowboxing the apocalypse.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Satin?
The Devil?
Burning humans in "hell"?
Stupid adults tell their children that kind of stuff to scare them into behaving.
Some really stupid adults actually believe that crap themselves.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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The Easter Bunny is coming soon.
Just ANOTHER children's fairy tale.
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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And you can keep insisting, as long as there's tomorrow. Curious to know how and when you got infected with this virus, though. Some big personal crisis solved by apparent divine intervention, or were you just raised to be a believer? Or is the world as it is just not exciting enough without adding a layer of make believe?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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One should "fear" only an angry god.
Only the true believes will be "saved". Presumably from the fires of HELL.
The Easter Bunny IS coming.
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Yep, that's it.
But even though it supported the foundation of the temple, and without it the temple couldn't have existed, it doesn't count because that would make the prophecy wrong, and we can't have that.
Not to mention the fact that Judaism still existing two thousand years after the fact calls out the whole self-infatuated "New Covenant" fantasy.
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Mimi
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You guys are really something. Show some respect. I know damned well if he was an Islamist on here citing Koran scriptures and current events, you'd all be cowering in your PC boots kissing his ass. Open season on Christians as usual. What asses!
thaDood, I'm not sure why you're on here taking all this abuse, but you're wasting your time. I know it's all part of witnessing and such, but I'm sure there must be better venues.
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Mimi
climber
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So much for me seeing you on Saturday night, Pate!
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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Islamists are more into creating current events than interpreting them. Same with Zionists. Christianity has that whole passive-aggressive approach going on instead.
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BrianH
Trad climber
santa fe
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This is but the beginning. Where books are burned, in the end people will burn.
Heinrich Heine, 1820
This is a caption under a picture of a Nazi book burning on display at the Dachau concentration camp.
I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and this thread is officially dead!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
In this instance, we didn't have to wait long for the people to start burning. People are idiots.
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Ah, okay, didn't recognize the new avatar. We've covered all this before, then.
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Yes, it still wouldn't prove anything. Judaism still exists 13 million strong, the Old Testament is still in print, and so that imperfect old covenant has not been usurped as completely as was so optimistically promised.
And then there's Islam, he didn't seem to see that one coming either.
Unless...
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dirtbag
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Religion is so boring.
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dirtbag
climber
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Far too much of it is babbling, incoherent, inconsistent, and illogical bulllshite, make believe, and wishful thinking. Dawkins is right...
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Yeah, I have, and it makes as much sense as any other eschatological myth. Take your pick, sure, once you choose to make it an intrinsic blueprint to your psychological landscape, it's amazing how everything falls into place.
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dirtbag
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In the Bush administration, people with DaDood's fruitcake Bible beliefs often held leadership positions influencing foreign and domestic policy.
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