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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
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Dec 13, 2011 - 12:34am PT
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She must have been a biggin...huh?
No.
Think "dominos".....
A Tele carve is the sweetest turn you will ever make
Let me correct that:
Linked parallel turns in free-heel bindings are the sweetest turns you will ever make
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:06am PT
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Free your heels and your mind will follow! Tele does rule, been ever so happy to cease the whole locked down alpine skis. Lighter gear, comfortable boots and yeah, it is superior to all!!!!
The turns are bliss and yes, you can parallel too....
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Oxymoron
Big Wall climber
total Disarray
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:11am PT
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Plenty of skiers are as#@&%es. I just get out of the way. I'm not reading your disdain.
Be a snob if you like.
Asshole. I ride snow, in various fashions. All haters suck. Adapt or die.
Either would be fine.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Dec 13, 2011 - 01:15am PT
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did somebody ever hear of the think of what might happen tomorrow if the sun exploded?
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Gary
climber
That Long Black Cloud Is Coming Down
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Dec 13, 2011 - 08:56am PT
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Could you repeat that in English, doc?
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2011 - 09:29am PT
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Funny you should ask, "What would happen if the sun exploded?"
Synopsis
Extreme Snowboard Riders of the Apocalypse
Earth has plunged into another ice age due to extreme solar magnetic radiation. Continents have collided into massive mountain ranges. The last surviving humans and animals have been transformed into mutant freaks struggling to survive. Gangs of heavily armed snowboarders, battle carnivorous apes, giant polar bears and angry wooly mammoths in a struggle for day to day survival. Competition for food and shelter is fierce against rival gangs of alpine skiing amazons who show no mercy and greedy high-tech android transformer snowboarders who can tune their personal music systems into deadly sound-wave death rays. A strange alien race has occupied earth putting up tens of thousands of high-speed quad chair lifts linking endless miles of runs and trails, all carefully groomed for death. Against this backdrop of a Frank Frazetta painting world gone mad, four young men have discovered a secret that will change everything. Can they survive the long ride lies before them? Who are the strange and ancient mystics who ski both down AND up hill known as the Telimen. Will they help or does their way lead to certain death? Can they make it past the apparent warmth and safety of the lodges where sweet sirens sing, serve wine, chili burgers, and offer to erase all cares with magical smoking weed? Yet these places are filled beyond capacity with filthy lurching posers who can no longer ride or even make their way to lifts. This shocking thriller will amaze you with every scene. You won’t be able to look away. Will they survive to save mankind or plunge to an icy death as a massive avalanche erases them forever while the world is pummeled to a pockmarked mud-ball by a devastating rain of meteors and rocked into rubble by successive solar shock waves bringing down a curtain of deadly aurora to fry the brains of the last few survivors of our pathetic race!?!
Coming Soon!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 13, 2011 - 09:54am PT
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Our local ski hill had great tree skiing until it became Sierra Skid Ranch.
Don't get me wrong, I love watching a skilled rider head down the fall line but good god so many turn side ways and descend like a Cal Trans snow plow, that's my only beef. Well that and the fact a lot of riders at the Skid Ranch are out of control given the high volume of beginners/intermediates hence the lack of a turn.
One thing I noticed as snowboarding gained popularity is a lot of boarders weren't afraid to hike! I almost never saw a bondage board skier on top of a mountain so I could totally appreciate the new passion (I really appreciate it if they don't have a split board and stay off the skin track).
Enough ragging, my best days are in the backcountry and there's plenty of room, besides let's face it skiers why didn't we invent fat?
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Good work, just carve don't skid!
Berg Heil
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Dec 13, 2011 - 10:30am PT
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i knew it--chris is a closet screenwriter and he's been trolling in some lunker material with this thread.
let's get serious here. i'm a not-quite-powderwhore-material tele guy who has actually tried snowboarding three (3)--count 'em, three--times. luckily, i didn't break any bones. a buddy of mine, skied all his life, also tried it three times and broke two bones. it does require skill. don't rag on these people.
but why does it have so much youth appeal? here's my theory. on a snowboard, once you manage to stay off your duff, you automatically look cool. snowboarding is about how you look. skiing is about what you do. that's it. the kids swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Who are the strange and ancient mystics who ski both down AND up hill known as the Telimen.
love it! boffo!
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Dec 13, 2011 - 12:24pm PT
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Ain't no snowboarders here...
Virginia Lake!
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Dec 13, 2011 - 02:21pm PT
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The other day my kids were asking me about boarders not being allowed at resorts back in the day i.e. 80's and early 90's. At the time it made sense to me. Now I look back and consider it elitist snobbery. There are plenty of idiots on the slopes, both boarders and skiers. Such is life.
My kids started out with boards and skis, but dedided to ditch their board and stick with skis.
It's all good.
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g-tech
Trad climber
Oakland!
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Dec 13, 2011 - 02:48pm PT
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Ive never been on a pair of ski's, mostly cause it looks soooooo gay. I do however enjoy riding with good skiers, they can actually keep up with me in the trees. Face it, beginners suck and are dangerous, no matter what they are on.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 13, 2011 - 11:48pm PT
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Always thought of snowboarding as more of an urban thing and skiing as a mountain thing until I saw this:
http://vimeo.com/sherpas/jpstreet
Now I'm just happily confused ;^)
BTW g-tech, you think this guy "could keep up with you in the trees"?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Dec 14, 2011 - 01:35am PT
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Spider still rides skinny skiis!!! We laugh at people like you here in Whistler dude! If you were riding pow all the time you wouldn't say that.
I grew up skiing and got sick of jumping around like a goddamn bunny rabbit all day! The boarders would glide right by effortlessly floating on the snow while we would sink all day. That might be all good in climates where the snow is nice and light but here on the "wet coast" you need to float!
But your right snowboarding does suck....
http://vimeo.com/31572650
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Dec 14, 2011 - 08:50am PT
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skinny skis work just fine if conditions are right. i posted this recently on a short-lived thread, but it bears repeating here. those are truckers--remember them?--and they turned amazingly on this bit of nonsense: a half mile of snow on a north rib of baldy one june 22nd. i kid you not.
we don't do powder in southern california. you have to understand that, all you whores out there. it shows up every 5 years or so and requires such a re-learning curve that we develop a distaste for it. the best for us is great corn. yes, turns to suncups. but then the suncups and runnels flatten and you get that rare and lovely stuff you can ski with truckers.
my default boards these days are relatively short, midfat world pistes, just fine for turning couloirs like this one near lone pine:
but forget about it for deep pow. i spent an exhausting day at mammoth last winter doing punta bardini. the stuff musta been 10 feet deep, and every time i hit a turn it seemed like drowning. my local partner had big, fat, long boards--another investment i don't need to make right now. he's lived there 10 years and is a powder ace, but he had an avvy episode two weeks previous he would just as soon have done without. spring corn is reliably skiable and safe. get into it.
and for the heck of it, if you know the san gabriels, an unbelievable adventure:
http://www.sierradescents.com/skiing/iron-mountain/couloir-to-nowhere.html
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fivesix
Trad climber
hope, alaska
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Dec 14, 2011 - 09:58am PT
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I like to catch the first tram everyday. Usually i'll go on resort binges for about 2 weeks straight. Its nice during the week when its mainly boarders. Everyone enjoying their music, not talking politics, quietly nodding to themselves. Theres a pleasant vibe thats shared by everyone in the tram - trammies included. But on the weekends, the skiers roll in, wont shut up, push and shove like children to get to the tram, push and shove like idiots to get out first like the snow is going to go somewhere. I see how the resorts are durring the week when the "barely out of towner" skiers aren't around and I see how they are when they are. Maybe its more spiritual and fun for us boarders since we don't view it as "I'm going to do exactly 72 turns on each edge, sit down for an americano and a danish and read the wall street journal, mutter some trash about democrats to myself, then its a warm glass of milk and lights out by 8:30". Damn plankers. You kill the vibe, you're horrible enough people that you telemark because you're too lazy to earn your powder but too dumb enough to buy a snowmachine if you want multiple runs. you're so stuck on tradition that you cant think freely enough to enjoy new things, moguls are retarded and died out with mullets (theres a reason mullets havent come back). shitty skiers wreck the snow as bad as shitty boarders (yet you refuse to drop the debate). you cant shut up while on the mountain and enjoy being away from work. the only enjoyable side of skiing is the freestyle and its following boarding now (in fashion aspects, too). When you're too puss to ride down the mountain you decide to take up the whole thing with gigantic carves (i'd rather ride ice behind leafer snowboarders). You should see yourselves on the mountain; it looks like you're doing aerobics at gunpoint instead of having fun. Every person I've ever met that i thought had some type of mental disorder at first impression turned out to be a skier. theres just something....not right or all there. Enjoy your planks and fruit boots. No one else does.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Dec 14, 2011 - 01:04pm PT
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nice film, murzerker. brings to mind a couple of quotes:
"you fill up my senses, like the mountains in springtime" (john denver)
"i saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it" (bob dylan)
when i'm out doing this in the springtime around here, i'm usually the only fool on the trail with skis. i encounter hordes of koreans, the hikingest people in los angeles, and have to explain myself:
what are you doing with skis?
going skiing.
where? all the snow is gone.
there's still some there. you have to know where it is. i hike to the top, and then ski down.
why do you do that?
it's fun, and good exercise. you guys like to hike, don't you?
(takes awhile, then it registers) yea--oh, yea!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
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Dec 14, 2011 - 01:10pm PT
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My favorite line from a skiing movie:
"I got two ice axes... One for climbing couloirs... One for hitting snow boarders..."
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Gary
climber
That Long Black Cloud Is Coming Down
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Dec 14, 2011 - 01:21pm PT
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Being a life long bunny sloper I can tell you that it sucks riding the lift with snowboard beginners. Even twice a decade skiers like me can get off the lift without a problem. Unless there's a novice boarder on the same chair with you.
They come off the chair and are totally out of control. Their first instinct is to grab you. They lurch into you, flailing away before they land on their ass, usually taking out a few people with them. I finally learned that when getting off the lift, the best move is to give the boarder an elbow shot to the ribs right away, that sends them flying off out of your way.
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