1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:19pm PT

Three of the original C4 guys that used their "funds" from the cargo ended up in the White House receiving Presidential Citations for their rescue work. Two became world class photographers, two became prolific novelists as well as having a major motion picture produced using this incident as the premise for the story. Many used their funds to further their climbing career using the latest equipment. Some even used their funds to design, develop, and market equipment that are used today in rock climbing. There are places to stay, places to eat, and places to have fun, all funded by the "harvest" of this plane crash.


by Ricknie » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:23 am
Well its now been almost 2 1/2 years since I started my research on this subject. I honestly thought in April of 2005 that I 'd have the book finished and published for that up coming Christmas. As it turned out I am contacted at least three or four times each week with either more information, new information, or contradicting information.

An interesting example about the four guys that found the plane. Well the first four names that I received were never there. And, all four are still living, live and large as we speak. I've interviewed two of them within the past handful of months.

The plane was never what the Feds thought it was. Many would think that wouldn't matter, but in fact the plane was a highly modified WW II submarine hunter/killer. Its capabilities far out stretched a Lockheed Lodestar both in size and in performance.

I've managed to find the #2 guy in the drug group. He consented to a audio taped interview which lasted about four hours. He was responsible for staging the dope, acting as load master, and paying the pilot(s) (there were more than a dozen planes used). So he knew exactly how much dope was on board the plane when it crashed.

Right now I'm about 90% complete with my research. I'm still waiting for some paper work on the WW II history of the plane. I'm also going up to the lake and take some shots of the area as well as the trail where Jack Dorn fell from.

So stay tuned.....and if you have any thoughts, drop me an email.
Albion

Trad climber
Bristol, UK
Jan 8, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
So, all those climbers who did clandestine work for the agency or the military, were they around Yosemite in '77? The man have some leverage on them?

Nah.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 8, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
So has the plane crashed yet?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
The Eternal Book.

Unfinished Symphony.

Tales In Waiting.

The Old Testament of Dope.

20,000 Cm Under The Lake.

The Longest Yarn.






philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
20,000 Cm Under The Lake.

LOL! Now I gotta clean mocha and mucus off my lap top.
Thanx Brucester.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
You're most welcome Transportation Guru of the Rockies!!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
Carl Sagan said it best

They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
The plane was never what the Feds thought it was. Many would think that wouldn't matter, but in fact the plane was a highly modified WW II submarine hunter/killer. Its capabilities far out stretched a Lockheed Lodestar both in size and in performance.

Huh? The Howard 500 prototype first flew in 1959 and was designed as an
executive ride from the get-go. The only commonality it shared with the
Lockheed Lodestar were outer wing panels and undercarriage.
Dolomite

climber
Anchorage
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
I have to go to a lot of writing conferences for my work. When you get a bunch of writers in a room and ask how long they worked on their books, the most common answer is "ten years."
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 01:31am PT
I'm curious. With all of the armchair quarterbacks/writers, have any of you ever submitted a FOIA request to a governmental agency?

Not true Reilly. You have more research to do.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jan 13, 2013 - 01:41am PT
Actually, yes I have. Being an active wreck chaser, submitting FOIA's is a big part of searching. It's a huge pain in the ass, especially when your information comes in 9 months later and doesn't have all the information you wanted because you didn't word the request properly. Then you have to re submit and wait another 9 months. Fun fun.
slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:01am PT
So without any criticism of the timeline, Licky, do you have any projections on when your book might be out? A very little bit of info in that regard might go a long way. Where ya at? I still want to read it.
slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:20am PT
What you talkin' about there QITNL (and what the hell does that avatar mean anyway?)?? Who is this "Tony" you refer to? You got some deeper info as to what the hell is going on here or is this more cloak and dagger?
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:22am PT
... do you have any projections on when your book might be out?
What "book"? Licky is The Man, not an author, trying to prosicute any left-over scraps he can gleen from you idiots.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 13, 2013 - 10:31am PT
Technically the syntax is

Hey Tony ...

but when I asked, he referred it to ric


BTW ric, don't let 'em bring you down - time (and me) is (are) on your side

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yosemitemtb

Social climber
Mariposa
Jan 15, 2013 - 09:02am PT
What "book"? Licky is The Man, not an author, trying to prosicute any left-over scraps he can gleen from you idiots.


Eight years of poking around on a climbers forum to bust someone for marijuana possession that occurred 30 years ago? That's even less likely than the book coming out.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 15, 2013 - 09:34am PT
I always check when this pops up top, thinking it may be ric giving all his loyal followers pre-notification of the imminent publication.

It's the least I can do.

Albion

Trad climber
Bristol, UK
Jan 18, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Huh? The Howard 500 prototype first flew in 1959 and was designed as an executive ride from the get-go. The only commonality it shared with the
Lockheed Lodestar were outer wing panels and undercarriage.

This proves you have not read all this thread. That probably means you have a life, unlike some of us.

Mr Schloss (which is, incidentally, the german for 'castle', but I digress) has explained the whole plane pedigree thing already.

Hey Rick, you gonna publish before the 40th anniversary of this debacle?

I still wanna read it too btw.
prickle

Gym climber
globe,az
Jan 18, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
oh please....

if people died dealing drugs then its their own fault

nobody forced them to do it
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
After filing a FOIA request at Yosemite, my brother and I poured over the boxes of files that they provided.

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