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Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 16, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
Isn't a Docker shirt a little bit too cas/hip/happening/"now" for the likes of a pocket protector?

Then again Dockers are fairly expensive shirts and cry out for adequate protection from "ballpoints".

Moreover who carries around a wad of ink pens in the computer age?
Old school racetrack handicappers?

I don't know.
Get outta here.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
May 16, 2017 - 04:54pm PT
This work is not for everyone with one of those plastic sleeves that fits into the front pocket of your Docker's shirt, bristling with ballpoints and micrometers.

There's a dress code for the job?
WBraun

climber
May 16, 2017 - 05:03pm PT
Generally, study humanity for awhile and you'll see how mankind dresses according to the consciousness it has developed.

Nowadays so much in this modern world is synthetic ......

Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 16, 2017 - 05:13pm PT
Nowadays so much in this modern world is synthetic ......

So very true.

Go out and try to find 100% cotton socks.
Shirts , pants, underwear 100% -- but not socks.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 16, 2017 - 05:33pm PT
Dockers!? As irrelevant to hip/happen/now as a Shakespearean codpiece.

Apparently you are blissfully unaware of the Docker " Vargas Boat Shoe"


Once again: it's hip to be square.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 16, 2017 - 05:41pm PT
Look , just slap some C4 rubber on them and you have possibly the world's greatest approach shoe that can double as a decent looking yachting deck shoe.

Btw, here is a question none of y'all can answer: why are leather-soled shoes superior to rubber?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
May 16, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
I hate to quote myself, but:

why are leather-soled shoes superior to rubber?

Hint: redox potential.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2017 - 07:03pm PT
We are so humbled, oh Wizard. How should we righteously proceed?
-----


With levity and a sense of humor.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 16, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
Is there an empty sense of humor that is the stage for laughable content? Is Humor another "hard problem?" I feel we are spiraling down to { }.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
May 17, 2017 - 04:07am PT
Is Humor another "hard problem?"

When computers start telling each other jokes, I'll start taking this whole the-human-mind-is-a-computer thing a lot more seriously.
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
May 17, 2017 - 07:05am PT
Good one, yanqui. That sounds like a better turing test.
WBraun

climber
May 17, 2017 - 07:08am PT
When computers start telling either other jokes, I'll start taking this whole the-human-mind-is-a-computer thing a lot more seriously.

Now you did it.

All those gross materialists just rushed off to program their computers to try and do this.

Guess who ... is still the real original doer .......
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
May 17, 2017 - 07:17am PT
If you think we're computers, it shouldn't be so hard.
WBraun

climber
May 17, 2017 - 07:20am PT
LOL ..... hah ha ha

Oh mannn .....
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 17, 2017 - 07:25am PT

Leave truth to the gross spiritualists ... and knowledge will soon be forbidden in school because knowledge is offensive to the pupils who do not know, but feel. The new alternative fact will be that the only fact is what you feel... which would be a state of "nirvana" for conservative religious American posers and their CEO Trump.. the new-truth makers...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 17, 2017 - 07:26am PT

Irony, understatement and so on will give computers a hard time..
WBraun

climber
May 17, 2017 - 07:38am PT
gross spiritualists

No such thing even or ever exists.

The new alternative fact

There's no such thing either. But only in your insane schizophrenic stalker mind ....

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
May 17, 2017 - 07:43am PT

... so is the very coinage of your brain, WBraun, I know...
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
May 17, 2017 - 07:49am PT
So I have a question for anyone out there who has ever worked with, or knows about primates (other than humans). I've spent a lot of time around animals like dogs and cats and, aside from what I might call "base" emotions, for example fear, I'm convinced some of these animals can experience more conceptual emotions, like shame and loyalty. But I've never seen anything corresponding to humor in the animals I'm familiar with (the closest thing might be "play"). Has anyone ever seen anything like humor in primate behavior, say chimpanzees or orangutans? Accuse me of anthropomorphism if you like, I'm not interested in arguing the point. But I would be interested if someone knew some examples of humor exchanges in animals other than humans.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
May 17, 2017 - 08:23am PT
Which also makes me wonder: when do humans begin to recognize humor in their developmental stages? I think back to Ceci's younger childhood and now I can't recall specifically how her comprehension of humor evolved. I do remember a cool example with the kid from next door, Santiago. When he was little (obviously old enough to have a good command of language) he made a great joke without yet seeming to be aware of how funny it was. The joke was very spanish-language specific, but I'll try to explain. He was over at our house and Gaby was going to fix him some chocolate milk. She asked him if he wanted it warmed up in the microwave. The word for microwave in spanish is "microonda". "Mi" is also the word for "my". "Tu" is the word for "your". So Santi asked: why are you going to warm up the milk in "microonda" instead of "tucroonda". There is no such word as "tucroonda" (but the play on words means: my croonda instead your croonda. Santi's play on words was spontaneous, immediate and absolutely hilarious. Yet he said it in all seriousness and seemed a little surprised when we laughed. Do our brains start to create humor, before we're even aware how funny it is?
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