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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 19, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
TM is now the poster child for the anti-gun crowd.

What a bunch of opportunists. This is hardly about race.





Just look at the mimicry of the sides from the gun debate thread.

C'mon, admit it guys, Zimmerman getting a cracked skull wouldn't bother you if you could outlaw handguns.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Just when I thought Florida was making Texas look good.


Report: 10 Texas men cheered while raping 13-year-old girl on video

By David Edwards
Friday, July 19, 2013 11:55 EDT

Up to 13 Texas men cheered as they filmed each other raping a 13-year-old girl, according to an Austin police report.

The girl told detectives that she was picked up by three strangers after running away from Settlement Home for Children on June 30. Court records said she was taken to the Avalon Palms Apartments and sexually assault by between 10 and 13 men.

KTBC reported that 24-year-old Juan Lozano Ortega and 26-year-old Edgar Gerardo Guzman Perez were arrested on Wednesday in connection with crime.


Ortega is accused of raping the girl while the other men cheered and filmed with their cellphones. The other men then allegedly took turns in the rape, which “lasted several hours.”

Evidence gathered during a forensic exam backed up the girl’s version of events.

An affidavit said that the victim was driven to a nearby neighborhood after the assault and told to “find somewhere to go.” Police were able to track down Ortega and Perez because one of them let the girl borrow his cellphone to call her foster brother, who captured the caller ID.

If Ortega and Perez are found guilty of aggravated sexual assault of a child, they could be sentenced to life in prison. Police are continuing to search for additional suspects.

State child welfare investigators are also looking into to Settlement Home for Children, which takes care of abused and neglected girls under 18.



I am confident that our local Zimmie fans will also think it is this girls fault for running away.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Potemkin Village
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Riley wrote...

"The Internet really has failed man... Instead of interesting conversation with intelligent people. We all end up arguing with the guy who sits in the corner of the bar mumbling to himself. Or f*#ktard racists who miss the days they had weekly klan meetings.
It's like reverse MENSA ... What a f*#king nightmare .."

Yes, spot on. :)
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
Trayvon Zombies with their liberal white guilt tumors are
the real problem.

Never cleaning up their appeasement puddles.
WUWT?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Ron wrote: DIng ding! we have a winner^^^^..

Coming from the biggest loser/whiner on this site. Perfect!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
RonA just because someone drools your cup of bile doesn't make them a winner.


But isn't it great that Obama's policies saved us from the economic collapse that Bush foisted upon us so we have the leisure time to spar and sputter about this rather than be out digging up grubs in the dirt and scraps of food out of trash cans.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
If comments on a forum make your world, Anderson, you need to get a life.

Jeebus, 60 comments from you today. LEB would be proud.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 19, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
And there in lies the rub.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 19, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
Zimmie got the best prosecution money could by.
Trayvon got the worst defense possible.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 19, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
Why are you so racist against Hispanics Philo..And have you contributed to www.blackpanthersrus.com towards the million dollar contract on zimmy?


The better question is when are you enrolling in a Sylvan Learning Center?
Your reading comprehension is skewed a bit to the right.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jul 19, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Fluid

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jul 20, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Dr. Christ writes:
I can walk up to you and ask a question.

You are also apparently stupid enough to think that is what actually happened.

No. I don't know what happened. And neither do you.

There is a big difference between asking a question and strapping on a penis extension, following someone, and instigating a confrontation with only the words "what are you doing around here."

i.e. Walking up and asking a question.

GZ knew full well there is a difference, which is why he lied through his teeth to the cops and said Trayvon initiated the confrontation.

This last statement is possibly true.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 20, 2013 - 12:38am PT
GZ knew full well there is a difference, which is why he lied through his teeth to the cops and said Trayvon initiated the confrontation.

This last statement is possibly true.

Possibly? Yeah, and kids should carry on casual conversations with strangers that follow them. Good luck with that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 20, 2013 - 12:53am PT

Z claims TM was pounding his head on the sidewalk when TM was shot thru the heart.

Z told the police TM collapsed immediately and fell forward, when he was shot.

How did TM wind up so far from the sidewalk?

Why is the shell casing(8) so far from the sidewalk.


The casing ejects backward and at an angle.


The head pounding on sidewalk claim does not make sense.

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 20, 2013 - 06:19am PT
And you know this how Bharata?
Inside information or wishful racism?
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jul 20, 2013 - 11:23am PT
First of all, there's this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/antoniowest.asp to clarify why this was not deemed a hate crime and why they won't be facing the death penalty.

Just because a crime was committed between 2 different races doesn't make it a racially motivated crime.

And secondly, the death penalty does nothing to the crime rate and is barbaric. We as a nation need to join the civilized nations that choose morality over vengeance. To continue is to be no better than some of the enemies we are at war with now.

Addendum: And furthermore, if we're to be so outraged over the tragic death of one child, why aren't we as a nation as outraged over the continuing body count from random mass killings of innocents by maniacs with nearly instantaneous unregulated access to guns?

Yeah, the news just completely ignored the issue. Except it didn't. I saw it repeatedly on the news for a week. Pretty good coverage for a random shooting. And Obama has already spoken about gun violence. Again: this was NOT a hate crime.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 20, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
As tragic as West's murder was, 13 month old babies can't talk, let alone write their story posthumously. So the first person account of the murder is clearly a fabrication.

Kill whitey.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 20, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
Imagine the number of letters innocent black children (or Hispanic or Native American) who were murdered by whites because of their race could write. Not for money, but for entertainment, convenience, and intimidation. Far more than the number white babies could ever write.

But the fact is, all of those murders (including West's) have absolutely NOTHING to do with GZ killing Trayvon. Absolutely, 100% false equivalency. More desperate grasping by scared, ignorant, racists crackers still upset about the new color in the White House and the fact that society is questioning their right to go around killing people based on their appearance.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 20, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
Ron you are sad, lonely pathetic little man...Manzanita is right there with you. Racist to the core.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 20, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
you're on a roll Ron...can't be for real...it's like some kind of ignorant cracker jazz improv...go man go
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