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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
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Have to agree with with Ron on this one--Obama should just keep his mouth shut and get back to his golf game or whatever he's doing now.
The Zimm case was personal tragedy for TM and his family, but on the scale of terrible crimes committed throughout the US on a regular basis, it wouldn't register as a blip.
Why would the president use the power of his office to sympathize with someone who may or may not have been a victim of a low-grade form of homicide, rather than with the many people who are indisputably victims of much more heinous crimes?
Black people getting shot by White Hispanics who are acquitted (or never charged) based on self-defense is hardly a pressing national problem. Maybe the murder rate of black men is, but stopping the Zimms of the world ain't gonna affect that.
Seems like Obama got personally worked about this case (like a lot of people on this site) and just has a real hard time accepting that the this incident was properly handled from the get go, notwithstanding the race-card players' best efforts to gin up a case.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
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Your balls are crystal? Did you suffer an unfortunate smelting accident?
this incident was properly handled from the get go,
B U L L S H I T !
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
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Of course you have to agree with Anderson, Blabla. That goes without saying.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
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I think I am going to hunt KKKrackers. They make me feel threatened.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
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B U L L S H I T !
I am serious--the police did a really good job in getting Zimmerman to talk and fully participate in the investigation; most suspects just "lawyer up" and shut up, thereby depriving the police of perhaps the most pertinent information.
Then, the local DA's office came to the correct conclusion in declining to proceed with charges--that is pretty much indisputable in light of the acquittal.
Again, if you all just take a few deep breaths and give this one some time, you'll see that it is just a regrettable incident and not the result of any conspiracy or cover-up or anything like that. Hard to really say race had anything to do with this, other than you all assume Zimm profiled TM, and I can't say he didn't, I don't know.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:26pm PT
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It's as if the local cops and the county D.A. told the A.G "we don't need you to do that". A.G. should have simply done what they were told, and not prosecuted.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
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My kids wear hoodies. Their Mom is Palestinian.
Should they be "profiled"? I know some of the mouth breathing knuckle dragging Crackers posting here think Hoodies = gang punk and Palestinian = terrorist.
My nephew is a honorable highly decorated career soldier who has fought for and been in OUR wars. I would put mine or my kids lives in his hands at any moment. I wouldn't let most of you racist crackers belay me on a top rope. He also a Black Man who occasionally wears a hoodie. Maybe some creepy assed cracker, like some here on the forum, will profile, stalk and confront him. It would be good to cul the Cracker gene pool.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
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You're doing more than your share of profiling yourself there, Philo.
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
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Martin got justice. In court and on that sidewalk. Only Democrats need
to let themselves lay passively as their brains are splattered on the ground or have their eyes poked out by a finger or their throats crushed by an
angry punk.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 19, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
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I love how the pathetic Crackers scream RACISM when their limited world view is compromised.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 19, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
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If Zimmermann's a cracker, Obama's a cracker too.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 19, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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You might be a cracker if...
1. You grew up and live primarily around people who are the same race as you;
2. You have ever stated these words, "I am not a racist, but ..."
3. You have ever stated these words, "I am not a racist!" ("Methinks she doth protest too much");
4. You doubt that the Holocaust ever happened;
5. You wish the Confederacy had won the Civil War;
6. You fear that your child will date a member of another race because interracial couples are "stigmatized";
7. You believe discrimination laws are too "politically correct";
8. You can't understand why it's wrong for you to use the "n" word since African-Americans use the word to each other and in rap music;
9. You believe hip hop is not a legitimate type of music;
10. You think it's really white people, particularly white men, who are the real victims of discrimination in this country in this day and age.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jul 19, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
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blahhblahh said Then, the local DA's office came to the correct conclusion in declining to proceed with charges--that is pretty much indisputable in light of the acquittal.
Again, if you all just take a few deep breaths and give this one some time, you'll see that it is just a regrettable incident and not the result of any conspiracy or cover-up or anything like that. Hard to really say race had anything to do with this, other than you all assume Zimm profiled TM, and I can't say he didn't, I don't know.
So except for that the incident started by profiling Treyvon by his race it had nothing to do with race. And you're again conflating what is legal with what is just. When the law is unjust you wind up with outcomes that are unjust.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 19, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
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I also wonder why obama did not mention the black panthers and call for calm and rejecting a million dollar bounty put up for a US citizen
oh yes Ron, I can just see you sitting there in Mound "wondering" all about that
the reason? probably because he knew that if he did then you would say he is dividing the country and should not talk about "race" matters
as if anyone gives a sh!t what you wonder about
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 19, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
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^ ^ ^
Shouldn't that be on the "Friday posting while drunk thread"?
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neversummer
climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Jul 19, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
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Some of you sound like you got a junior g-man badge and an online degree in criminal profiling..... wow.
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Fluid
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 19, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
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Dr. Christ writes
Is anyone really stupid enough to think "self-defense" applies to a confrontation they started?
Of course it does. I can walk up to you and ask a question. If you attack me, I can fight back in self-defense. We don't know if this is how it happened, but the possibility exists within what we know. Of course, you are free to extrapolate beyond what we know.
Trayvon first ran (which clearly got his pursuer amped up) and then stood his ground when he had no other option.
Z had already called the cops when TM was running. I wonder if he didn't want him to get away because then he'd have nothing to show the cops when they arrived and appear foolish. So his goal was to keep Z located until the cops came, and to do so, he followed and approached him. Those who think he started the fight at that point need to square that with Z's knowledge that the cops were on the way.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jul 19, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
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. A.G. should have simply done what they were told, and not prosecuted. No ASSHAT Zimmie should have done what they told him and stood down.
The Attorney General has no obligation to swallow the sh#t coming out of Floridastan.
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Dr. Christ
Mountain climber
State of Mine
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Jul 19, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
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the police did a really good job in getting Zimmerman to talk and fully participate in the investigation
Yep, and he gave them a completely different story than what was presented in the trial. He said Trayvon approached him, asked GZ if he had a problem, and then told GZ he was going to die that night.
GZ flat out lied to the cops and changed his story when it became obvious the phone call with Jeantel would prove him wrong. Why did his story change so drastically? Because he knew what he did was wrong. He is a lying sack of sh#t wannabe cop who targeted and killed an innocent kid based solely on appearances.
Is anyone really stupid enough to think "self-defense" applies to a confrontation they started?
Of course it does.
It was a rhetorical question. Of course a handful of you are stupid enough to think that.
I can walk up to you and ask a question.
You are also apparently stupid enough to think that is what actually happened. There is a big difference between asking a question and strapping on a penis extension, following someone, and instigating a confrontation with only the words "what are you doing around here." GZ knew full well there is a difference, which is why he lied through his teeth to the cops and said Trayvon initiated the confrontation.
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