Occupy Wall Street Thread Reposted

Without unions, YOU'd not have company assisted (it used to be fully paid) health insurance, a 40 hour work week, social security, any kind of pension, not even 401k. There would still be child labor and garment factory fires that killed hundreds. There'd be no mine safety.

This is not necessarily true. I work in technology, and I have never been in a union, nor have any of the companies I work for ever had unions, yet I get many of the benefits that union jobs provide, because companies have to compete with each other to hire workers.

And because your company had to compete with unionized ones, obviously.

I get union scale on non-union jobs for this exact reason. Sometimes the non-union jobs actually pay better, because they have to compete. That situation obviously wouldn't exist w/o unions.

Unions had a lot to do with your wages and benefits. Is it just a mere coincidence that non-union wages and benefits rose as union wages and benefits rose? And now the reverse is taking place. As unions become irrelevant in this country, wages are stagnant across the board, hence the widening gap in income.

And you still can't see who took them away for the obscene profits.

Dude your logic is as twisted as your thong.

Public sector unions are just a taxpayer shakedown.

I'm all for opposing gov't backed corp's, but the OWS clowns appear to be against wealthy people and ALL large corporations, which I'm not.

And this is mostly the fault of greedy labor unions.

Unions are still remarkably strong in government, because it is difficult to outsource government jobs.

"Public sector unions are just a taxpayer shakedown."

I hope you're including prison guards unions.

And excluding teachers' unions. I've been closely associate with the operation of my local school district for 15 years. I wouldn't work for what the teachers AND administrators are paid and I don't think you would either.

Which would have happened anyway, so your "one reason" is backwards and wrong. If there were no unions, we'd still have our manufacturing base, and corporations would have ignored cheap overseas labor? Laughable and wrong.

In other words, you're against all aerospace corporations, all air travel/transport corporations (gov't built, run and owned airports), all corporations dealing with ground transportation (gov't built, run and owned roads and bridges), all military equipment/infrastructure corporations...

Congress passed the Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act (P.L. 107-42) in response to a severe liquidity crisis facing the already-troubled airline industry in the aftermath of the September 11th terrorist attacks.

Ultimately, the federal government provided $4.6 billion in one-time, subject-to-income-tax cash payments to 427 U.S. air carriers, with no provision for repayment, essentially a gift from the taxpayers.

When does your job get outsourced?

Ultimately, the federal government provided $4.6 billion in one-time, subject-to-income-tax cash payments to 427 U.S. air carriers, with no provision for repayment, essentially a gift from the taxpayers.

If wages AREN'T 3X here than they are someplace overseas, then who's going to buy GM's cars, a computer on every desktop, and pay the taxes for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Union employees are taxpayers too.