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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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May 11, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
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I'm not having fun with this. I was making a real effort and life showed up. Back to the beginning I guess.
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John M
climber
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May 11, 2014 - 04:03pm PT
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It happens Michelle. It took me at least 4 times to make quitting stick. I say at least 4 times because those years are a bit of a blur to me and I just don't remember all the times I went back. its probably more then 4, :-) but I did it and now don't have any issues with alcohol. which is a relief.
Just get back on the horse and start over. Thats all you have ever had to do. Decide who you want to be in each and every moment and remind yourself why. I would also say don't waste a lot of energy beating yourself up. You can't change the past. You can only choose what you will do today. Today is a new day and it sure is a pretty one.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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May 11, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
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i used to cast a valiant stare
that gleamed my soul's conviction.
i did.
i could answer to anyone.
somewhere, though,
that substance eroded
and now i can only author a shifty glance,
as my mounting failures cast a dark shadow
upon my distant successes and
not much longer can i lean on
that which i used to be.
the present beckons the warrior,
but i've only to offer a coward.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 11, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
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Coming up on 4 months. It's been not too bad so far, for a 56 year old retired gentleman living in a halfway house with a bunch of neurotic 20 year olds. It was this or die. Feels awesome.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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May 11, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
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Good to hear from you, bvb. Sounds entertaining
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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May 12, 2014 - 12:03am PT
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What up bob? We should go bowling.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 12, 2014 - 04:50pm PT
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Yeah Michelle, bowling pairs great with ginger ale, right?!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 12, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
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Lemon lime seltzer water, don't go anywhere without it. Grapefruit flavor is better bit you can't get it (Safeway) in Utah.....
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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May 12, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
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I'm all about Pelligrino!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 12, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
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Straight up artesian from that spring beneath lower cathedral. Hell yeah.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 13, 2014 - 06:20am PT
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Fck that doom sh#t. Life sober is a hell of a lot better than life wallowing in the sh#t. Seltzer water all the way. Its fizy and hits the spot with no sugar:) I used to do the ginger ale thing at partys and gigs and would feel like crap the next day.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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May 13, 2014 - 10:46am PT
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I'm sorry for your loss. I understand that you're passionate about AA and the steps.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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May 13, 2014 - 05:53pm PT
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If I am at a bar(yes, I do occasionally go, though I sure didn't in the early years) I will order a cranberry and orange juice, or cranberry with seltzer. Or seltzer with lime. I'd have plain water if it didn't seem cheap.
For house parties, I stock a variety of juices with seltzer, and will brew as much coffee as anyone cares to caffeinate with. For those who drink alcohol, they are welcome to bring whatever they want, but I make sure they know there won't be any if they don't BYO.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 13, 2014 - 08:11pm PT
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Being in a construction crew A few times one of the guys has asked me to buy beer when I am going to the store. Does not work for me. Did it once or twice and have decided that it is not my place for many reasons.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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May 27, 2014 - 01:53pm PT
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Hey Jebus,
Nice post.
Good job staying straight on the long and winding road.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 27, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
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Great post Jebus.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
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May 27, 2014 - 02:54pm PT
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Alcoholism and Drug addiction has affected to some degree every family I have ever known. I have been clean and sober since August 17th, 1989. Most of the people I have met who have tried to get sober don't get it on the first try. Some of them who couldn't have died, and others continue to live in the nightmare cycle of drinking/using, remorse, drama, financial ruin, and deteriorating health. Fortunately, several close friends of mine have also known longtime sobriety, and like me, they continue to live happier, healthier lives. I used AA but no longer attend as I am now an atheist who feels uneasy in the higher power based environment of the organization. I consider myself an lifetime member nonetheless and did every service requested of me there, and then some. I volunteered to visit and speak at the meetings in hospitals and institutions for eight years. Nothing is more satisfactory than freely exiting such places and returning to the life I now have, spared of the pain and fear of not knowing how to accept life on life's terms and how to look for and relish the rare and beautiful moments we might miss if we are too stoned, or drunk, or selfish, or upset to notice.
I have gone through some difficult times in sobriety. I have helped support my wife as she battled and recovered from cancer, have lost family members to illnesses, and have had surgeries and illnesses to recover from as well. Some of my other family members struggle with addiction and alcoholism as well. I think around year four or five were the hardest though. I just could not seem to control the people and situations around me and no matter how I tried, the play would rarely go off as I directed...
I think that time was the darkest, when I had to begin living from moment to moment and learn to lower my expectations of all the results.
Everyone deserves the opportunity to see the world as clearly as time, health, knowledge, and experience will allow. We all have different circumstances, but we who seek to be free from the bonds of addiction can be united by our similarities...
Decide that you want and deserve to live, what kind of life you want to lead, put your pride, anger, and all the rest on a shelf, and use every means at your disposal to get yourself there.
As to the question: is sobriety an appropriate topic for discussion in a rock climbing forum? The answer is to ask the question; does it pertain to you or to someone you love? If so, it is pertinent.
-Tim Sorenson
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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May 27, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
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Watching my brother -in-law unable to be treated for liver cancer because the cirrohsis from alcohol and the hep c from drug use have left him with very little liver that functions. Holding my sister's hands as she loses her husband. Watching my niece lose her daddy - who will not be there to walk her down the aisle. Watching my nephew patiently taking Dad to the flea market and taking care of him (awesome little guy) instead of doing all those things 19 year old boys are supposed to do.
SObriety is a fight that is worth it to your family. I look at this thread each time it pops up to see the support and see the struggle. I am rooting for all of you.
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