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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 13, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
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I don't read, write, or speak Latin oh Icey one
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 13, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
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That'll be one canuck Forty. Deposit please in my ST purchase credit account.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Aug 13, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
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Any minute now Blah Blah will describe in detail the sophistication and global extent of corruption in public scientific research and patent offices plus Rick Sumner will present his seminar " Spotting credibility in a scientist, for the Layman".
Bruce, it's not necessarily corruption, it's just that it's largely worthless.
Go back and reread the recent issue of the Economist that explains that many if not most "scientific experiments" aren't replicated when put to the test.
And it's not me that discovered the abuses at the USPTO, it's the Inspector General, as reported in one of those right wing blogs, the good ol' Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/07/31/federal-paralegals-had-no-work-so-they-surfed-the-internet/
I just got back from a climbing trip so haven't been able to follow this thread too closely--looks like Chiloe's been up to his hornswoggling again though, glad everyone's well!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 14, 2014 - 12:14am PT
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Go back and reread the recent issue of the Economist that explains that many if not most "scientific experiments" aren't replicated when put to the test.
I don't think it says that... and if it does, it is quite incorrect. Perhaps you should get your science from a publication where the editors know what science is...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 14, 2014 - 12:17am PT
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Ed operates under the fiction that money spent by the government is all well spent.
blahblah works under the fiction that the government wastes all of the money it collects.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 14, 2014 - 12:24am PT
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What the hell are you doing up at this late hour concerning yourself with this farce of a thread Ed?
You want to move past acceptance of this crock and talk mitigation policy. Modular micro reactors are a good and palatable start but you must also be accepting of increased usage of NG and drop the insistence on behavioral modification by punitive taxation. The government doesn't need more of the hardworking peoples income to waste on pipe dream nightmares.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2014 - 12:59am PT
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Looks like the Clown Car is running on helium this time!
A real three-ring show. Get your tickets!
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Aug 14, 2014 - 06:26am PT
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Looks like the Clown Car is running on helium this time!
A real three-ring show. Get your tickets!
Indeed.
I posted about a test and some hypotheses concerning warming vs. cooling bias in the US Historical Climatology Network data. Those concepts whooshed right over some heads but set off a loud squawking. Rick "Fuk the science" Sumner launched one of his bizarro diatribes, this time against foreigners and the people who quote them. His rant is complete fantasy,
you could find no such interpretation from any reputable U.S. scientist or even blog?
Complete B.S. propaganda, and not even from this country. Turns out that every word he wrote is false, the data are US, but Rick does not skip a beat. If US data don’t suit his ideology, they must be false too. So how then does he “know” the following?
The U.S. has been cooling, admittedly in fits and starts, since the highest recorded temps of the 1930's. We’ll come back to that.
Blahblah, however, don’t need to know nuffin, he’s got D-K!
hornswoggling he blahblahs.
Then there’s the Chief, who not long ago had no idea what a “trend line” might be. He still doesn’t, I think, but he’s discovered Wood For Trees will calculate them for him. Characteristically Chief didn't read or try to understand what my post said, so the particular trend lines he wants to fit make no sense. But we'll come back to that too.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2014 - 07:26am PT
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You [Ed] apparently can not read or you are becoming totally incapable of assimilating information appropriately.
 The Chief
Seriously, you couldn't make this up.
The Chief cannot remember even his own request.
Here you go The Chief, the part that shows what a dumbf*#k you are:
The Chief
Aug 13, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
That graph is from NOAA.
Outstanding.
Now let's see a graph showing the trend for that period Larry. I know, I know, you won't post one because it will show the flat temps and validate the pause.
EDH is afraid to post one.
Of course, Ed was responding to this. Here, have a look:
I down loaded the data from the NOAA website ...
Ed
I'm sure The Chief's retort will be idiotic, it's all he can seem to muster at this point.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 14, 2014 - 07:45am PT
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Simply amazing Larry. You say a graph you posted was from NOAA , you get called on it, now you claim its alright since the data manipulated by a german blogger originated from NOAA. And you can't understand why sceptics don't trust the CAGW circus. Mind boggling, you are.
Larry good one. I liked my new nick name Rick (fuk the science) Sumner by the way. Speaking of nicknames where is Jack "the hammer" Muir (Base) with our geology 101 lessons.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Aug 14, 2014 - 08:06am PT
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You say a graph you posted was from NOAA , you get called on it, now you claim its alright since the data manipulated by a german blogger originated from NOAA.
Nope, I did not claim anything of the sort. Here are my exact words:
That graph is from NOAA. Do you know what a URL is?
So you're making up "facts" to fit your politics yet again. Since you do this so casually, and don't bat an eye when your accusations over and over again prove false, you seem to assume that other folks must be equally dishonest. But you've made that up too.
Mind boggling, you are.
I'm telling the truth, if that boggles you.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 14, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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The Chief,
what sort of "trend line" do you want... you have many choices...
linear, logarithmic, polynomial, power, exponential, moving average...
I can provide even more if you want, those listed are easily done with Excel (at least the version I have).
So please state what it is you want...
Here's one:
this is the "trend line" that is constant temperature, the average of the 14 years... equal to +0.39ºF, the "trend" is that the temperature will remain constant into the future, and was constant in the past.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 14, 2014 - 09:00am PT
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LMAO.
You're too busy sitting on your ass in front of a computer all day long posting ideological propaganda on the inturdnet.
a morning group libtard fanatics meeting fear mongering brigade
proliferate the agenda, ideology of fear and of course, the funding
You apparently can not read or you are becoming totally incapable
of assimilating information appropriately.
Accept and adapt to that new normal or else perish.
Exploit, demean and demand.
Please do tell us all how that is not a direct reference to how your ideology/political belief supersedes anything from the "right-wing".
Exercise your persistent self imposed supremacy over anyone that does not go with your agenda and ideology. You apparently can not read or you are becoming totally incapable.
Appears that you are having some major memory loss issues
seriously consider informing this very dangerous situ.
if you are currently working with highly sensitive material
that could put this country, and possibly the world, in a highly dangerous position.
Know what I mean ? Who's truth? Yours? Outstanding.
Now, here they come. The class dudes and their insults.
What a pathetic waste of a life and intake of 02. You apparently can not read..
You're reading comprehension failure is growing as each day passes
Thanks for reaffirming my point of your ideological fanaticism.
Completely based on speculation and assumptions that have yet to be proven.
Quit stalling and deflecting Appears that you are having some major memory loss issues
Know what I mean ? Who's truth? Yours? Outstanding.
You of all people know
Just dumbass wanna-bes as yourself attempting to be somebody on occasion.
The new "normal". Got it.
LMAO.
Accept and adapt to that new normal or else perish.
That is the law of survival here on earth. You of all people know.
That of course is according to your imposed philosophy of, "evolution".
You of all people know But you wouldn't understand.
a morning group libtard fanatics meeting fear mongering brigade
proliferate the agenda, ideology of fear and of course, the funding
You apparently can not read or you are becoming totally incapable
of assimilating information appropriately.
Like you and your computer/climate science freaks are going to change that law of reality that prevails throughout the Universe. You of all people know.
a morning group libtard fanatics meeting fear mongering brigade
LMAO. you and your computer/climate science freaks.
You of all people know. But you wouldn't understand.
LMAO
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 14, 2014 - 09:24am PT
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Thanks for your incompetent morning psycho evaluation Bruce. You really are an oblivious, ignorant, one trick pony.
I don't have to rely on "intuition, luck, or willful distortion", Bruce
I simply have to read. Emerging from the rat trap noise of the CAGW narrative are a group of solar scientists from around the world that are beginning to untangle the mechanisms that the primary driver of climate change on planet earth, old Sol as the ancients knew, effects ever changing atmospheric and oceanic conditions that has erroneously been almost solely blamed on the trace gas CO2 by the whacko contingent you support here.
If it wasn't inconsistant with your twisted ideology you too could read the voluminous material of sources of climate change contrary to the CAGW narrative. However, that will never happen since it is counter to your progressive intuition and attempts ar willful distortion.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Aug 14, 2014 - 09:27am PT
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what sort of "trend line" do you want... you have many choices...
linear, logarithmic, polynomial, power, exponential, moving average...
I can provide even more if you want, those listed are easily done with Excel (at least the version I have).
Not to steal Ed's thunder but here's yet another kind that works well with long noisy time series -- lowess regression, applied to US temperature data over the full period of the USHCN record.
Of course the contiguous US comprises less than 2% of Earth's surface, so this graph does not show "global warming." What it does show is US warming that is, on this century time scale, broadly consistent with global trends. For example, in the US graph above you can see the pause-step-pause-step-pause timing pattern that characterizes global temperatures as well. And the linear trend is even more consistent: .13 degrees F/decade for US annual temperatures, and .13 degrees F/decade for global annual temperatures (both analyzed from NCDC datasets).
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2014 - 09:28am PT
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this is the "trend line" that is constant temperature, the average of the 14 years...
Beautiful Ed...
Of course it will be. It is directed towards you KMAN.
The Chief
The Chief, then how do you explain your response to Ed (the one I quoted in my post, in case you're lost)? That was idiotic, but it wasn't directed at me.
The Chief has hit rock bottom, but look out--he's grabbed a shovel!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2014 - 09:35am PT
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What Chiloe says:
Of course the contiguous US comprises less than 2% of Earth's surface, so this graph does not show "global warming." What it does show is US warming that is, on this century time scale, broadly consistent with global trends. For example, in the US graph above you can see the pause-step-pause-step-pause timing pattern that characterizes global temperatures as well. And the linear trend is even more consistent: .13 degrees F/decade for US annual temperatures, and .13 degrees F/decade for global annual temperatures (both analyzed from NCDC datasets).
What the deniers hear/read:
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2014 - 09:36am PT
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Now we are getting somewhere.
Good to see EDH that you agree that the "trend" for the past 14 years has basically flattened compared to previous 20.
Hahahahahaha. Hook, line, and sinker!!
That is so frickin' funny.
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raymond phule
climber
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Aug 14, 2014 - 09:57am PT
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I don't have to rely on "intuition, luck, or willful distortion", Bruce
I simply have to read.
LOL, like you have shown a single time that you have understood anything of the science that you have claimed to have read.
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