1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Aug 3, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
I've stayed out of this one but if anyone doubts that there was av gas mixed in the hooch - rest assured that there was. Especially when huffed in a corn cob pipe, which I was abusing a lot back in those day - you'd go to burn it with the Bic lighter and a regular flame would leap off the hooch, like a small explosion. Don't much care who believes it but anyone who ended up with such stash remembers this well. That stuff was nasty. And strong . . .
JL
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2012 - 10:29pm PT
Wait a minute sidmo..you said you never smoked it, never sold it...but now you are describing its affects. How so? Ya know what's interesting...I've found someone else refering to a "corn cob pipe"....I have to follow that lead. This ought to be a very interesting connection...Ya think "sidmo"?
WBraun

climber
Aug 3, 2012 - 10:32pm PT
We all know about what the weed from lake was like.

There's no problem there.

Actually heh heh the original players are all here.

It's the stupid idiotic rants of sidmo against licky that makes him so stupid.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Aug 3, 2012 - 10:51pm PT
trollin on

Z you rock – when I was on dead tour, I only flew in new planes, unless I was thumbing and then I changed on-ramps from show to show to spread my fingerprints around

Licky you are so moronic – do you think I never tried it? Like others, I figured it out . . . that it was flammable . . . after a few Js . . . and didn’t smoke it no more . . . you phuckin moron . . . quit trying to understand - you’re too square to get it and too stupid to know – “You ain’t gonna learn what you don’t wanna know” – you’re a moron

Are you all laughing now? good
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2012 - 10:56pm PT
Sidmo..I've interviewed WB, JL, BP, VC, DF, and many of those that made their way up to the lake. All have been very straight forward with their stories. Only sidmo has been the elusive one that can't seem to get the story straight or tell it like it was. So sidmo, why can't you come forward with your identity like the others have? I'm not using names, but at least you ought to have the balls to step up to the plate and let everyone know who you are before....before...before it is figured out who you are. Be rest assured, I have another goal. Sidmo, I need...for the book, to have a chapter about people like you and Chainsaw. It'll make people shake their heads and ask why the f*#k did this guy walk out of the woods and expose himself for the fool that he is? JS
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Aug 4, 2012 - 01:47am PT
Well:

That stuff was nasty. And strong . . .

Kinda what you'd expect of airplane fuel, no?

reminds me ... this starts out as a farmer's daughter yarn, but takes a turn where the intrepid traveler, has to go out back and get papa's permission to spend the night. He finds the farmer lifting his herd[?] of pigs up one by one, to chomp on apples on the proverbially apple tree. Stunned, he asks of the farmer, isn't that an incredible waste of time. To which the farmer replies, 'time, what's time to a pig"?

Anyway, I've been chastened for wasting so much time reading and posting on this thread. To which all I can think to say is

time, what's time to a dumb jackass, or for that matter a smart one

I vote for a (hopefully televised) confrontation of ric and sid right about the time the book is released (it is coming soon, right?)

Good Night Irene, you'll see me in your dreams.

Sleep tight and maybe tomorrow night we'll retell the story of Jack LaLanne's nortorious towing of nearly a ton of, uncontaminated, hash oil soaked weed across the border at the TJ sloughs in a leaky old rowboat. No Sheeit [name redacted] got it on film.

Jack as he exits water after being busted by Jim Hicks.





sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Aug 4, 2012 - 02:44am PT
What? I thought I WAS Chainsaw, you moron. The definition of insanity, it has been said, is to repeat the same action while expecting different results. Licky, you have tried shaming and harassing me, yet I continue to keep my own confidence. And yet you continue, despite the fact that I’ve made it perfectly clear that I have no intention of rewarding your inappropriate behavior . . . unless you apologize for your rude demeanor.
I might be enticed to share my slice of the story but see absolutely no incentive to . . . and that window is nearly closed. The strange thing is that I don’t want anything beneficial or glorifying – I just want you to change your abusive tone and apologize . . . or not. I don’t care. But without honest contrition I remain uncompelled to help you at all.
I entertain myself watching you founder. Call me a troll if you like, or stupid, or worse. The opinions of you and your sycophants mean little to me. I kill time, as I’ve said before, clocking your silly little thread and monitoring your incredible lack of progress on your “book” - since you claim to parse my posts you should know that. The story obviously interests me enough to watch the train wreck as it progresses.
You seem to think that I need to unload, or come clean with you but won’t for some reason. Well, I don’t need nor particularly want to unload because you’re a jerk. It’s like expecting me to give a bum some spare change while he’s flipping me off. Not about to happen. Not even if your tough talking friends continue berate me on your cliquish little thread. Why should I? You’re a jerk so why should I want to help you? You’d have more info for your little book if you were nicer, at least my story . . . perhaps others would be inclined to speak up.
If you think you’ve got enough to go to print then close the thread and publish already. I believe you’re stalling. I think, as I’ve said before, that you’ve found yourself entangled in a writing project that’s gotten unwieldy, and become too complicated to complete. I offered to help – for free – and got blistered for being so presumptuous. That was the first clue I got as to your true personality. Needless to say, I found your responses unnecessarily rude.
I have concerns about your motivation and affinity for law enforcement – we weren’t exactly eagle scouts back in ’77. I thought about finding my compadres and securing their permission to tell our tale, citing the probable theory about the statutes of limitations expiring, but soon soured on you as a person. I decided that I’d wait until you realized the error of your ways and adopted a professional approach. Now, years later, it has become clear that you have no interest in conducting research in a professional, analytical and comprehensive manner . . . probably because you can’t. You can’t finish the book for the same reason.
You’re an amateur writer – or not even up to that level. You have preconceived notions of the truth, and, you cherry-pick data to suit your literary agenda. So much of what you do and how you do it reeks of amateurism that it is a wonder that you would even embark on such an unlikely journey - which leads me wonder about ulterior motives that you may have. I’ve written, published and worked with a few writers, more than a few actually, and you are . . . well, different, to be gracious. Let WB and the other haters pile on, if I worried about currying favor with them I’d just email you personally. No, I’d rather any readers to realize that, while I might be a troll, I am legitimately asking how it is that you expect to be treated as a professional writer while taking forever to post a chapter or even a paragraph . . . how many years is it now? Close it out for your own sake Licky. Anything that is as elusive as the book is to you might not be worth pursuing at all. You’re like the dog chasing the car – what will you do if you catch it?
Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Aug 4, 2012 - 02:50am PT
Skidmark, I'm begging you to get the Therapy you need.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Aug 4, 2012 - 02:52am PT
please pudwinkle - do you think anyone thinks you care? do you think anyone cares? what you think, that is
splitter

Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Aug 4, 2012 - 03:02am PT
What Bullwinkle said!

+1
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Aug 4, 2012 - 03:08am PT
provin me right boys - just keep piling on, lickylikers
Baa Baa Baa


and to licky: learn to use the Ellipsis - they're not just random dots on a page
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 4, 2012 - 03:51am PT
Damn, I think I need therapy after reading skids latest rant.
sidmo

Sport climber
general delivery
Aug 4, 2012 - 07:23am PT
Any of you that can’t or won’t see through Licky’s façade need therapy
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 4, 2012 - 06:58pm PT
Sidmo, I need...for the book, to have a chapter about people like you and Chainsaw.

Every Circus needs a side show
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Aug 4, 2012 - 07:59pm PT
Werner was hauling loads from the plane? What's the world coming to. zBrown you make an excellent point about Nietzsche, I think nore climbers should know about him and that Nietzsche would fully approve of the dirtbag lifestyle. His anti-religion comments get the most attention, but he was really all about experiencing life to its fullest.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Aug 4, 2012 - 09:24pm PT
A fool will always end up stepping in their own Sh^t.

Sad to see someone not finishing high school and ending up cleaning toilets and maybe writing for comic books but you still have not said which ones Sidmo.
splitter

Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Aug 4, 2012 - 09:27pm PT
T Hocking,

Welcome to SuperTopo!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 4, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
T Hocking, welcome aboard - next time you want to PO the wifey, start reading the Wings of Steel thread, another time killer, not quite up to this threads drama, but great reading.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/72849/Wings-of-Steel

edit: It actually started 4 days before this thread and is twice as long
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Aug 5, 2012 - 12:35am PT
^Is there an abridged version or Cliff Notes?

adm

Sport climber
england
Aug 14, 2012 - 12:19pm PT
is this book still being wrote, i read about this years ago i think this was the book.
adam


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F8Pk9pECmZ0C&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=yosemite+national+park+drug+plane&source=bl&ots=Q6jvVZltcu&sig=7JbzV6w-s-oAHV-9y28pqi04mc8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F3UqUPuXG8rF0QXB-4DgDA&ved=0CF8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=yosemite%20national%20park%20drug%20plane&f=false
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