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monolith
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Sep 20, 2011 - 10:24am PT
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Mojede, nope, don't trust the political commissions.
Do you believe everything your fellow Truthers say?
And aren't you the one that takes unconditionally the word of a policeman? Trained observer right?
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Betelnut
Mountain climber
So. California
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Sep 20, 2011 - 10:29am PT
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Girls, girls, girls, quit the squabbling. They're going to take away your internet privileges at the asylum.
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dirtbag
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Sep 20, 2011 - 10:34am PT
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My view is most of the so called evidence presented by the conspiracy aficionados is blatantly manufactured to exploit their willingness to believe.
I also believe some of the so called conspiracy aficionados participating in this thread are trolls too.
I think its mostly a game to see who can float and sustain the most ridiculous theory.
DMT
Werd. The Alex Jones' of the world are making a fortune off Conspireligion.
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WBraun
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2011 - 11:08am PT
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By the way there's no religion in this.
Maybe klimmer?
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WBraun
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2011 - 11:16am PT
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Talk about "blind faith"
These fools here take complete blind faith in the "some guy in a suit" handed over the purported passport.
No name, no ID, no nothing of the reporting party.
Just a suit with a guy in it ......
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 20, 2011 - 11:25am PT
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My view is most of the so called evidence presented by the conspiracy aficionados is blatantly manufactured to exploit their willingness to believe.
OK, what about Appendix C in the original FEMA report on 9-11 of why the buildings at Ground Zero collapsed. You know, the Appendix that goes into detail about the melted steel found at Ground Zero? I'm talking about the Gov't report with pictures of melted steel, eye witness accounts of uncovering melted steel weeks after the building fell at GZ, the whole ball of wax. Manufactured by conspiracy aficionados in FEMA?
Or how about the NASA fly-overs weeks after 9-11 that reported surface temps at GZ in excess of 700F. "Manufactured" evidence?
Later, NIST totally ignored Appendix C in the FEMA report, the NASA fly-overs, the fact that melted steel steel was found at GZ.
And I'll bet good money you'll ignore it too, DMT.
raymond, cleo, TGT, monolith, anybody gonna address that, you know, by trying to debunk it? Come on, debunk the FEMA report, you can do it.
As of yet, nobody, including Popular Mechanics, has gone close to these things.
It's Deny & Ignore, the order of the day.
And raymond, if it makes you happy, I'll admit that I never even looked into the report of a plane flying over the Pentagon. So yeah, there could be no witness, what do I know. In fact, I've moved past the Pentagon because there's nothing anybody can prove there without the Pentagon releasing clear evidence of a plane impacting, or doing Werner's experiment. I still believe that the photographic evidence and damage to the building does not support the eye witness accounts of a jet liner hitting the building. And no, I cannot explain it.
However, one thing I do know, no Believer is willing to take on the hard questions remaining at Ground Zero. Every Believer has to totally deny the fact that there is profound evidence that explosives were used to bring down all three buildings, and that the Official Story completely covered up or ignored all of the facts that show this.
Hundreds of eye-witness reports of explosions from firemen, police, news people, civilians inside and outside the buildings. Photographic evidence of melted steel. Melted steel itself, from the site. The fly-overs I mentioned above. There is so much evidence it's astounding.
And if that's not enough, the report that fires caused the collapses has been totally and thoroughly debunked. This is especially easy for WTC 7, but you can also easily conclude that it's true for the Towers as well. Simply, there is no other way to explain the physics, the melted steel, etc, etc.
NIST knows this, and that is why their explanation of the events at GZ is still under lock and key. You cannot know how NIST came to their conclusion of how the buildings at GZ fell.
Do you see the evidence, or don't you. It's really your choice, because if you actually look, it is there for you to see.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 20, 2011 - 11:36am PT
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As expected, Dingus. And that's OK. As long as you realize that your view that the evidence is "blatantly manufactured by conspiracy aficionados" is a view with blinders.
Cheers! too :-)
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:50pm PT
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No name, no ID, no nothing of the reporting party.
Just a suit with a guy in it ......
Just a suit with a guy in it.
Let's see.
Nope, wrong Werner.
Maybe this one? A nomex suit is still a suit.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Sep 20, 2011 - 12:52pm PT
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Ray-
Kman ain't an idiot.
Anymore than Werner is.
Both of them are smart and you couldn't meet nicer people.
Been fortunate enough to spend time with both.
You met Kookman? Did he wear a tinfoil helmet?
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 20, 2011 - 01:41pm PT
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OMG, no wonder Werner knows all about space age nano-thermite!!! He used to be a rocket scientist!!
Is this what happens when rocket scientists make friends with aliens and bathe in the cocoon - they learn to defy gravity too?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Sep 20, 2011 - 02:30pm PT
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Once again . . .
Sep 17, 2011 - 08:58pm PT
http://911blogger.com/
Submitted by Orangutan. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:49pm
9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out, Full-length, Pre-Release-v1.3; Low-Res:
Documentary, Experts Speak Out, Richard Gage AIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ&feature=player_embedded
Wow, awesome job ae911truth.org !!!
Excellent and thorough documentary. It's a must see.
Investigate 9-11-2001.
If you children can remove yourselves just for a moment from your immature and childish ad hominem attacks and ways, and grow some courage you just might learn something. Facing the truth is part of the healing process. Until you do that you will forever be lost, feel completely disconnected, and live in fear and lash-out in hate.
Check-out the full length video above. It completely goes through WTC 7 and the evidence. Also near the end they talk to many psychologists regarding peoples' inability to face 9-11 reality no matter how dark it maybe.
We definitely have that going on to a great degree here on ST. One of the tale-tell signs are continual immature and meaningless attacks against those who tell you these truths that inflame cognitive dissonance within you. You strike-out, bully, be-little, throw ad hominem attacks against those who will tell you something contrary to your make-belief lives and paradigms.
Grow-up and grow some testicles.
or ovaries as it may apply to you . . .
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 20, 2011 - 02:34pm PT
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Klimmer, how'd that NWO ordered swine flu vaccine work?
And the chemtrails?
Has the earth been depopulated yet?
What does Alex Jones think about all this?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Sep 20, 2011 - 02:41pm PT
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dirtbag,
I was pretty clear. Perhaps you didn't read it once again. One more time . . .
If you children can remove yourselves just for a moment from your immature and childish ad hominem attacks and ways, and grow some courage you just might learn something. Facing the truth is part of the healing process. Until you do that you will forever be lost, feel completely disconnected, and live in fear and lash-out in hate.
Check-out the full length video above. It completely goes through WTC 7 and the evidence. Also near the end they talk to many psychologists regarding peoples' inability to face 9-11 reality no matter how dark it maybe.
We definitely have that going on to a great degree here on ST. One of the tale-tell signs are continual immature and meaningless attacks against those who tell you these truths that inflame cognitive dissonance within you. You strike-out, bully, be-little, throw ad hominem attacks against those who will tell you something contrary to your make-belief lives and paradigms.
Grow-up and grow some testicles.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 20, 2011 - 02:43pm PT
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Nice dodge.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 20, 2011 - 03:28pm PT
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Holy cow, this is big news:
Lloyd's insurer sues Saudi Arabia for 'funding 9/11 attacks'
The 9-11 Commission did not want to follow the money trail. Looks like Lloyd's is pressing the issue.
Its complaint, which quotes heavily from US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks
detailing investigations by the US authorities into al-Qa'ida, attempts to establish funding
links between some Saudi charities, and the terror group, and implicate the Saudi government
in that funding through its support of the charities.
The case singles out the activities of a charity, the Saudi Joint Relief Committee for
Kosovo and Chechnya (SJRC), which was alleged by UN officials to have been used as a
cover by several al-Qa'ida operatives, including two men who acted as directors
of the charity. It is alleged that at the time the SJRC was under the control of
Prince Naif bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud, half-brother of King Abdullah and the long-standing
Saudi Interior minister. The claim states: "Between 1998 and 2000, the Kingdom of
Saudi Arabia, through the SJRC, diverted more than $74m to al-Qa'ida members and
loyalists affiliated with SJRC bureaus. Throughout this time, the Committee was
under the supervision and control of Saudi Interior Minister Prince Naif bin Abdul Aziz."
This could get ugly.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Sep 20, 2011 - 04:37pm PT
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What did you do with the passengers, Werner?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 20, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
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Indeed Dingus. This thing hits so many different levels. Hard to believe it's true, but there ya go!
International intrigue. Money, spies, sex! Somebody should make a movie.
Even if just for the sex.
Oh wait, Michael Moore already did! [OK, that's a total joke--lol]
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Sep 20, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
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K-man,
Good find. That's very interesting news.
Yes, it could get very ugly. It's what is needed, massive lawsuits. The World knows 9-11 was LIHOP and MIHOP. Time to get to the truth and go after the real thugs.
Michael Moore was way ahead of his time. This reminds me of . . .
Fahrenheit 9-11
Powerful eye-opening movie. It still is.
(Need a classic image of GWB holding the Saudi Prince's hand and/or kissing right here)
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WBraun
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2011 - 07:19pm PT
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Incompetence means they didn't really know.
Nope ... there's a real coverup as they really knew what was going down and let it happen.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Sep 21, 2011 - 02:01am PT
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Worth another watch, its been some time for me . . .
Fahrenheit 911 - The full length movie - Bush cheated in the 2000 election!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chj5R0Izt9s
We were screwed royally in 2000 AD. And then all this doo-doo happened that has taken our country in a direction we should never have gone over the next 8 years. Two 9/11s happened on GWB's watch: one physically near the beginning of his administration and the other economically right at the very end. Unbelievable.
Remember 9-11-2001 happened on GWB's watch, and then on purpose.
LIHOP and MIHOP.
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