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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Here's to waking up this morning not feeling like hell and remembering how we got home last night!
I even stayed up till midnight, listening to fireworks from the Mohonk Mountain House ticking in the new year.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Jan 11, 2014 - 12:42am PT
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f*#kin off, getting wasted:
a convenient method of torquing your vices,
casting your tranquility out into a sea of disease,
and then reeling it back in to find it each time,
less in emotional mass.
and then you begin to leave your tranquility put;
casting instead yourself out into the torment.
swimming amongst poisons and ailments and pain and sorrows;
fears and regrets.
for me, drinking was always a means to put myself
in a weakened position from which i must crawl back.
i enjoy bounds. i search for my low threshold,
just to tease what i am made of.
i even like to extend myself as far beyond
my learned capacity as my insanity-sanity
modulus will allow.
for me life ain't right unless i am constantly
struggling to re-achieve my status-quo comfort.
i've abandoned this path of booze for the time well.
i don't know for how long,
i have promised myself a year,
and it is going well.
i now achieve my inter-personal thrashings
via my engineering career, my tree-surgeries / amputations,
my child rearing efforts, my rock clawing dreams;
and all of these tried mediums beat me well,
that i must crawl back from each thorough experience.
i stay tied to a life for roughly four year cycles.
then i upset it, drastically.
my marriage and family have endured this variability of mine.
they have even transcended my habits and will continue to
because a family ain't a career and thus cannot be toyed with.
but sanity ain't a family and thus shall be eternally upset.
for now my cup remains dry.
though i imagine drunk as well
or even better than it's stark reality.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jan 11, 2014 - 08:00am PT
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Norwegian: you seem like a really intense guy...
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Jan 11, 2014 - 08:40am PT
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thank you dean.
i maintain myself such that
when two choices entertain me,
i am equipped to chose and
carry out the more difficult one.
growing up in and maintaining a home in
the mountains has taught me this credential.
anita dear i present online
in a much skewed theatre.
in warm skin i am very shy, reserved and a little awkward.
as far as my intensity,
that is all on the inside.
im super dopey about my tangible business,
mostly in a state of such stupor
that my friends won't let me blaze the weed
because they tell me that i am already there.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jan 11, 2014 - 10:56am PT
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I can dig it
I am shy too
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jan 24, 2014 - 10:44pm PT
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1 week no alcamahol.
Yay me!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 24, 2014 - 10:47pm PT
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hey there say, ... just stopped by to say--keep up the great work...
so many things to do, to fill 'a different' cup...
cup of knowledge, etc...
our family, my folks, taught us moderation, so we were fortunate...
i thank god for my folks doing this... it kept a very bad hard battle from
us... well, for me... (as, i was not home when my brothers were younger, so i don't know their stories--i was married and in south texas, then)...
god bless and happy good eve to you all...
so many names, to names, blessings to you all, and your wonderful goals...
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Jan 24, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
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Still in the game since 7/5/1985. Willing to share the wealth-
Plaid
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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here's to pissing on the sun.
that f*#ker is hot,
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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One reminder I give myself is there isn't anything that a drink won't make worse.
Plaid
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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June 22, 1992 at 0930 EST was my last drink.
I carry that around with me like a chip.
I think alcoholics are obsessed with details such as these. Like watching someone else drink a beer and being astounded when they leave an ounce and a half at the bottom of the glass.
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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One reminder I give myself is there isn't anything that a drink won't make worse.
I like it Plaid
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Kenygl
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Feb 11, 2014 - 06:17pm PT
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The article is a good read. I don't advocate one method over another. I have my preferred method buy it isn't for everyone. If there's a problem deal with it. If there isn't drink up. The individual will know.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Feb 11, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
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Apogee -I haven't time to do more than glance at the article right now, but "AA is Bad Science" articles come out quite frequently. This one doesn't seem to present anything new(though I will take a better look when I have sometime).
True - many people are mandated to AA after getting in a legal fix. Would we rather they be mandated to government-funded programs, when the plain truth is - as of yet, we have not found a way that is "better than AA?" AA, which "works" as well, if not better, than other courses of action, costs the government not one cent, although I suppose someone who is unable to transport themselves to meetings may require assistance in that way, which would likely be provided by a very localized organization which might receive some government funding.
Should we really "do nothing?" when a person cannot control their drinking to the point they are driving drunk or whatever other behaviors are getting them mandated to the program? Getting a dose of AA never killed anyone, although it may have been extremely uncomfortable for people who didn't want to address their drinking problem or couldn't seem to get the concept that they could have named a tile in the floor of their AA meeting as their "Higher Power."
Contrary to popular belief, most people recover from their addictions without any treatment—professional or self-help—regardless of whether the drug involved is alcohol, crack, methamphetamine, heroin, or cigarettes.
Contrary to whatever the author of that article is smoking, it ought to be the experience of the vast majority of human beings that that statement is a crock of shite. They really ought to provide some reference to reliable information when they write something like that. And...they don't. College year drinking does not equal alcoholism for the majority of the population.
Anyway - I am glad I got sober through AA, as have more than a few agnostics and atheists I know. It IS a program that works - if you work it - and is applicable to ALL aspects of life, not just addiction. IF we followed the Steps, Principals and Concepts of AA as a basis for dealing with our neighbors, from next door to those on the other side of the world, we WOULD HAVE world peace.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 11, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
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Whatever works for you is fine by me but keep your pompus bullshit to yourselfs. Pretty fcked up when the AA crowd judges me and declares that I must not of really been an alchoholic if i was able to quit on my own without being part of their program.. Got news for you sunshine. I have accomplished many things in this life that many if not most people could not pull off. Of course millions of other folks have accomplished things that I could not. As much as we are all the same we are all different.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Feb 11, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
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Tradmanclimbs -I have no doubt whatsoever that you are an alcoholic. I never suggested you weren't...sunshine!
Because a write of an article(who doesn't mention actually have been an alcoholic, or even having attended open AA meetings) writes that AA'ers say someone who is able to quit on their own "must not really be an alcoholic" is blarney. Nowhere in the Big Book does it infer such a thing, nor anywhere in AA literature published since.
For sure, there are probably alcoholics in AA who would spout that sort of blather, but that would be their personal opinion and nothing more, and you know what they say about opinions.... (Or, as is said in the rooms of AA: "Some are sicker than others" - which is usually said in jest, by the way).
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Feb 11, 2014 - 10:11pm PT
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AA works but not or everybody,
95 percent leave before 90 days,
of those, 95 percent leave before 2 years,
maybe a lot of those who drop out remain sober, maybe not,
most of the people who come in on the blue light special do not return,
so 1 in 400 make it to 2 years, if they do make it to 2 years, then they tend to stay sober a long time,
you have to find a group that is good for you as anyone can attend, all it takes is one goofball to turn people off, and there is not much you can do to shut them up so you find another meeting,
so get what you can and leave the rest, helps me out, on my way to an 8 oclocker, free cofee, sometimes cake and cookies, and some cool people that i like,
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bergbryce
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Feb 11, 2014 - 11:44pm PT
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Only people who have been to 3 or less meetings give a rats ass about what everyone outside of the program gets all up in arms over. I got a tip for you.... It's the community. These programs allow you to surround yourself with others like you who also want to be well and provides some structure and some sort of direction for the previously directionless and hopeless. No one comes into aa high fiving their friends. For most, it's a demoralizing end of the road. But some get better and there is no better feeling than helping another crawl out of that shitty pit of hell you were once in yourself.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Feb 12, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
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Two days away from 14 years. One day at a time. For those still suffering, please keep up the fight. It works if you work it.
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