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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jul 27, 2011 - 12:36pm PT
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Seems pretty clear that a coupple of bullys had their way with the WOS party. Chopping and crapping in typical cowardly bully style. That kind of behavior is never excusable. If the people who did that are in fact a big part of climbing history then we should know who they are...
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jul 27, 2011 - 12:50pm PT
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Peter, a few American teams did the same from the Aquarian. And if you and many others knew who they were you'd be surprised
The three man team? Nothing suprising about that.
I heard it was beer cans, empty ones at that.
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Meaty
climber
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Jul 27, 2011 - 12:51pm PT
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Tradman, you'll be surprised who they are and so will many others. But a few chumps want to put the blame for what they did on me. I will simply defend myself, pretty simple but impossible for some to grasp.
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Meaty
climber
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Jul 27, 2011 - 12:53pm PT
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Mucci, full ones as well.
So now some as#@&%e is gonna blame me for that too?
One of the offenders is in the Valley right now.
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Da_Dweeb
climber
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Jul 27, 2011 - 12:56pm PT
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An LAPD officer lives on a street and the new neighbor across the street installed pink flamingos on his front lawn.
This pissed off the LAPD officer after attempts trying to get the owner to remove them.
There was nothing he could do about it so he went over there and sh'it on his lawn.
Hahahahaha!
Oh geez, I must be exhausted, but just the mental image this conjures up makes this one of the funniest things I've read all morning. Guess I'm not above laughing at crap jokes either. Seriously, thank you, Werner.
Now, mind you, there were several incidents of systematic attempts to get them out of the Valley at the time, according to the WOS book they battled some pretty major and inexplicable rate hikes to their camp sites on a number of occasions that would have meant an end to the whole expedition, for example. I'm very tired due to finishing up an overnighter as I finish up my final class essay, so if you weren't trying to make a point with the above story, I apologize. In any case, I appreciated the chuckle. =)
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jul 27, 2011 - 01:02pm PT
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**Mucci, full ones as well.
So now some as#@&%e is gonna blame me for that too?**
Full ones seems sacreligious for that team.
You were not mentioned, at any time.
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Meaty
climber
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Jul 27, 2011 - 01:06pm PT
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Yeah, I was not mentioned. But some of these dweebs here are all about pushing buttons and would love to make more false claims.
Yes, full ones. They told me all about it.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 27, 2011 - 02:07pm PT
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You don't know about the folks arrested and prosecuted in Federal court in Fresno for vandalizing my vehicle over ethics, do you? One just happens to post here all the time. I've had more bolts chopped in Yosemite than anyone else.
Federal court is how things are settled face-to-face in the Valley?
And such an angry defense in the face of patently false accusations? Well, then one can only marvel at how restrained the WoS team has been and so much for empathy...
Bottom line is the treatment these guys received beyond the verbal was vindictive and cowardly and for there to be a hundred posts thirty years later that all say "you'd be surprised..." simply shines light on that fact. At least Robbins had the balls to climb Harding's line and back up the sh#t talk.
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Meaty
climber
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Jul 27, 2011 - 02:12pm PT
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healyje.
You don't have a clue, these three, one to later become LE in the Valley, were caught vandalizing, turned in by climbers from the UK that observed their crime. Unlike Robbins, I didn't chop any bolts on El Cap, so blather on with your nonsense and be a foolish chump.
And yes, moron, you'd be surprised who those three cowards are, one of them posts here regularly.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 27, 2011 - 02:35pm PT
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Like I said, a class display of empathy...and some real Shirleys still in the closet thirty years later.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jul 27, 2011 - 03:09pm PT
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"... you'd be surprised who those three cowards are, one of them posts here regularly."
We *love* surprises!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 27, 2011 - 03:11pm PT
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when you got up and came out of your tense so early making that fuss
Did they come out of the past progressive into the past perfect?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 27, 2011 - 03:13pm PT
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And yes, moron, you'd be surprised who those three cowards are, one of them posts here regularly.
And hard to figure which is more cowardly - that they did it then or that they don't have the balls to own it now.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jul 27, 2011 - 04:02pm PT
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Throwing full cans of beer is much more serious than pooping on ropes. How is that different from trundling rocks on someone on purpose?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 27, 2011 - 04:06pm PT
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die, thread. die.
Glad to see you're still with us to cheer on the debate - I was beginning to wonder...
All I can say is who cares? Some guys drilled a big bolt and hook ladder up a horrible line, and somebody crapped on their ropes.
The choice of line was theirs to make - horrible or otherwise - just like it was Harding's. Don't like their choice and want to give them some sh#t about it? Cool. But to do more than that, and do it under the cover of darkness? Low and cowardly no matter which way you look at it then or now.
No doubt if I'd done anything like that I'd probably want it to simply slither away under a rock as well. God forbid someone's rep might look simply human in hindsight.
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Slakkey
Big Wall climber
From Back to Big Wall Baby
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Jul 27, 2011 - 04:27pm PT
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This thread is like a Bad case of The Runs
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Jul 27, 2011 - 04:30pm PT
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This thread is like a really funny looking dog chasing its tail!
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